re: Baseball Player Injuries: Is it Time to Replace Strength & Conditioning Coord.?

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you alwas try to muddy the water because I do't buy into the groupthink.

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Asking you to provide support for your opinion is “muddying the water”?

You keep saying it’s not bad luck and clearly our coaching staff is abusing players’ arms and yet you can’t provide a single statistic that supports your claim. Again, I ask, why is this issue happening this year when it hasn’t in the past? What did CPM and Dunn change?

here comes the groupthink

yes, cringe because I don't think like you.

cringe because no other SEC school has this many injuries this season.

Cringe because I don't believe in luck.

cringe because I stand my ground and don't change my opinion because 8 posters spam the board with groupthink.

ya'll just try to muddy the water thread after thread. truth is, you cant handle someone thinking differently than you.

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deaux

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It is a red flag. I'm not a weak willed follower. I don't groupthink.

provide some stats proving your opinion of luck existing and being real.

I agree, but football is more violent. I don't know if S & C program is the cause, it's why i was asking not stating.

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I think this is part of the issue. The thing is, there are a million things that could adversely impact a pitcher's throwing arm when it comes to rest, mechanics, strength and conditioning, pitch counts, innings, etc. No one, from the pros on down to youth league, has a firm grasp on any specific one of them.

I think that using technology like the Motus sleeve to measure arm stress and customizing throwing programs to each individual can help mitigate or delay injuries. There also needs to be customization of the strength and conditioning because just building power in someone's legs without balancing it out in their upper body is a recipe for pushing too much force through their elbow. The muscles around each joint need to be strengthened.

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Personalized regimens for each player is definitely the way forward. I saw one article that talks about Dunn doing this for guys when they arrive on campus but not sure if only for the guys that come in with a pre-existing issue or if it’s all the pitchers.

It’s just crazy how little we know as to the cause and how guys like Dr. James Andrews are stumped to this point.

why is it so hard for you to deal with the FACT that I don't share your opinion? move on... who else cares so much that I disagree with them?

why are you so personally invested in arguing with me thread after thread?

can you handle the fact that we disagree? are you getting paid to do this?

Do you understand that soreness doesn’t necessarily mean injury?
Both Hill & Henry have had MRI’s which show no damage

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why is it so hard for you to deal with the FACT that I don't share your opinion?

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the only opinions I’ve shared is that I believe each pitch should have a personalized training regimen and that it’s unbelievable Dr. James Andrews and his colleagues can’t figure out the cause of these arm issues.

I’m just fine with you having an opinion that different from mine. I’m just trying to have a discussion that includes supporting evidence of your opinion. Unfortunately, you appear incapable of having such a discussion.

I don’t know what the issue is but how come LSU has had the same head coach, pitching coach, and trainer for this many years and just now they are starting to have all these injuries? Did the coaches change something or is it the players that are changing? If it’s the coaches having an “old school” mentality and that mentality used to not hurt pitchers then it’s the player’s that have changed. What is the difference in player’s now compared to player’s just a few years ago?

Nola, Lange, Gausmann, Ranaudo, Coleman, and countless others have come through the program with zero issues. I don’t know if it’s travel ball or the showcase circuit that are causing injuries, across the sport not just at LSU, but I don’t believe in coincidences either and the rise in travel ball and the rise in pitcher injuries throughout baseball have seemed to happen close to each other.

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why is it so hard for you to deal with the FACT that I don't share your opinion? move on... who else cares so much that I disagree with them?

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It’s fine that you don’t share the same opinion as others
What’s not fine is the FACT that you continually say “they” are making kids arms fall off, will not specify who “they” are & what you think “they” are doing to injure kids

If you are going to call out a coach for injuring a kid (that may or may not have a chance at the bigs) have the balls to say who it is & how he / “they” are causing injuries