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re: Barred Sallee has LSU finishing 7th in West...
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:18 am to Lakeboy7
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:18 am to Lakeboy7
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His assessment of the spring game was pretty much spot on, if we cant throw down the filed
This is how I know that he and you are both full of shite. Throwing down the field hasn't been the problem. Throwing a screen, short or intermediate route has been the problem. So, we work on that and do it in the spring game and idiots like Sallee (and whoever says he's "spot on") think it means he can't throw downfield.
Honestly, I'd settle for not completing a single pass all season over 30 yards if it meant Harris would consistently hit his targets inside of 20 yards and a decent amount from 20 to 30.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 8:19 am
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:54 am to The Mick
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LSU has never finished 7th in the West, worst was 6th in 1992 (hallman) and 1996 (dinardo/hunter).
Not 1996, it was 1999. We went 10-2 in 1996.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:17 am to The Mick
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LSU has never finished 7th in the West, worst was 6th in 1992 (hallman) and 1996 (dinardo/hunter).
It was metaphysically impossible to finish 7th in the West prior to 2012. The SEC only expanded to 14 teams (7 in each division) in 2012.
And it only expanded to 12 teams (6 in each division) in 1992. Before that, it was 10 teams, with no divisions.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:27 am to Nuts4LSU
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Will someone who makes this claim please for once back it up with some real information? People on here say every year that [insert year of current starting QB] is the year most QBs show the most improvement. I doubt there is any statistically significant trend on exactly when, how much and how often QBs improve, but like apparently everyone who keeps making this bullshite claim, I haven't looked it up, so I don't know.
It just fits with their list of excuses for poor QB play.
1. First-year starter
2. Youth
3. Injury
4. Pro-style offenses are complex, can't be mastered until many years in the system
5. QBs make a big progression in xxxx year starting
Never mind that 7 of the last 8 national champions had first-year starters at QB.
Or that in the last decade (with the exception of one year), first-year starting SEC QBs have won the SEC, the national championship, and/or the Heisman.
But look, I really hope our passing game improves and hope Harris has a great year. It's just that I get so tired of hearing the constant litany of excuses.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 9:42 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:09 am to Nuts4LSU
It amazes me that people put so much stock into what some pundit thinks who knows no more about LSU than you or me. It also amazes me that some people are so automatically negative. You think nothing can change or nobody can improve over a previous year. It also amazes me that people put so much stock into a Spring Game. The pundits nor the fans have no idea what the team is trying to accomplish.
I am sure Bartett Salle never played any football of any significance. Teams are not going to show all their cards. To the perpetually negative, if you must be miserable all the time, please try to keep it in your own world. Also, don't whine about not being able to get tickets to a playoff game if LSU is so successful. I don't know if they will be so good or be mediocre. But I am going to wait and see how it plays out. Some just expect the worst all the time. How depressing!
The way I see it, games against Wisconsin, Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, Alabama and Arkansas will define LSU's season. All are winnable games and all are challenging. They could win them all or lies them all or something in between. Luck, injuries, etc will play a big role. The SEC is damn tough and even for Alabama. So, enjoy the summer and believe in the possible.
I am sure Bartett Salle never played any football of any significance. Teams are not going to show all their cards. To the perpetually negative, if you must be miserable all the time, please try to keep it in your own world. Also, don't whine about not being able to get tickets to a playoff game if LSU is so successful. I don't know if they will be so good or be mediocre. But I am going to wait and see how it plays out. Some just expect the worst all the time. How depressing!
The way I see it, games against Wisconsin, Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, Alabama and Arkansas will define LSU's season. All are winnable games and all are challenging. They could win them all or lies them all or something in between. Luck, injuries, etc will play a big role. The SEC is damn tough and even for Alabama. So, enjoy the summer and believe in the possible.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:46 am to toughcrittercrumb
Sallee hates Les Miles and this is pretty much how he predicts LSU to do every year.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:56 am to toughcrittercrumb
Why does anybody put ANY credibility on what goes on in the Spring Game? That game is most probably the biggest fraud in all of sports next to the pro bowl. They don't blitz the QB. The offenses run very vanilla (by design) and everything is at half speed.
Most of the real innovation and change is put in during the summer anyway....far from our voyeuristic eyes.
Most of the real innovation and change is put in during the summer anyway....far from our voyeuristic eyes.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 12:00 pm to lsu2006
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He knows he can say things like this and thousands of LSU fans will hate-click it. It's not a complicated concept
Posted on 5/9/16 at 12:41 pm to TigahTeeth
The strange thing is that Sallee is usually very positive on LSU.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 12:51 pm to atltiger6487
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in the last decade (with the exception of one year), first-year starting SEC QBs have won the SEC, the national championship, and/or the Heisman.
I agree with your overall point, but I think this stat may be wrong. Beginning in 2006 (the last decade), years in which no first-year starting SEC QB won either a) the SEC championship, b) the national championship or c) the Heisman, with listing of starting QBs who did win those things:
2006--SEC and national championship: Chris Leak, Florida, Senior in 4th year as starter. Heisman: Troy Smith, Ohio State (not SEC)--does not fit your criteria
2008--SEC and national championship: Tim Tebow, Florida, junior in 2nd year as starter. Heisman: Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (not SEC)--does not fit your criteria
That's two exceptions. I think all the other years you are right, though.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:00 pm to DrSteveBrule
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Didn't listen, but if he actually said that then he should probably be fired. That is nonsensical as frick. Did he forget A&M exists on something?
The funny thing is that he praising and over ranks TAMU yearly. I think he had them at 10 regular season wins last year.
lsu2006, is completely wrong about Sallee. If he wanted clickbait he'd go against the fanbases with more people on Bleacher Report, or pit two rivals against each other. Trust me, I've been reading B/R the past 4 years (gets me through the mundane times). Unless this guy just spent the past several years faking hating on Les Miles and loving TAMU. That seems even less possible though.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:04 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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Barred Sallee
Never heard of him. After that prediction, it's not surprising why.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:06 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Not worth wasting my time reading, and I wouldn't give him a click.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:22 pm to Lakeboy7
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His assessment of the spring game was pretty much spot on, if we cant throw down the filed its going to be 9 guys up front every time LF7 gets the ball.
Only a moron would think we can't throw it downfield just because we barely did in a freaking spring game. Harris averaged 7.8 ypa last year and tied 3rd in the conference in passes over 40 yards. He also had the best ratio here.
Dak Prescott - 477 passes 15 past 40. Means he connected on a 40 yard pass every 31.8 pass attempts.
Jake Coker - 393 passes 14 past 40. Means he connected on a 40 yard pass every 28.07 pass attempts
Kyle Allen - 283 passes 12 past 40. Means he connected on a 40 yard pass every 23.58 pass attempts
Brandon Harris - 276 passes 12 past 40. Means he connected on a 40 yard pass every 23 pass attempts. Harris was also tied for 3rd in passes connected past 50 yards with 7. He also had the best per completion mark here as well with one every 39.4 passes. The even remotely closest starter (starting at least majority of the games), was Brandon Allen with one every 52.85 passes. As a matter of fact, he tied with 8 other people for seventh in the country in passes completed beyond 50 yards. I don't feel like doing the math, but a quick glance shows me that he is likely in the top 10 for players who started the majority of the year, in completions past 50 yards per pass attempt.
Passing deep wasn't his problem, it was passing short and touch passing. That is what he is working on. Also his timing.
Barrett Sallee is a hack.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:30 pm to atltiger6487
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Never mind that 7 of the last 8 national champions had first-year starters at QB.
they don't run the very very complex "pro style" that we have been running in the past. This year we are moving to the more open, modern days, less complex, "NFL style" offense, more in line with what most other teams run these days.
Pro teams don't run the olden times "pro style" in it's pure form anymore as now a days the modern "NFL style" is the offense that has become more popular and effective.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:33 pm to LSULyle00690
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How u figure the passing will get better? None of the personel has changed
1. Now Harris has a year of experience. This goes a long way.
2. Coach Craig working on Harris's problem areas like touch and accuracy in the short passing game. Knowing when to check it down to Fournette who was wide open a lot last year.
3. The actual WRs and TEs getting better. I honestly can't believe how this aspect isn't discussed more. Several times when guys had to attempt to make a spectacular catch (one in particular was Dupre vs Miss St), it's because they ran the route wrong. This offense deals with precise route running and a full route tree if the QBs can utilize it. Getting more aggressive means not getting jammed at the line and pushed out of bounds. I really think Ferguson is going to do well if he is the #3 WR this year.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:36 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Clearly click bait......anddddd who?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:41 pm to Dignan
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Who?
Sounds like that guy that's friends with Madeup Nameinsky.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:42 pm to LSULyle00690
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Harris has had a lot of time Still sucks
Harris has started one year.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:44 pm to boxcar willie
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Never mind that 7 of the last 8 national champions had first-year starters at QB.
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they don't run the very very complex "pro style" that we have been running in the past.
right on cue - excuse no. 4.
And our offense has been "very very complex"??? Jesus.
Even taking your statement to be true (which it isn't), isn't that an indictment on our coaches that they're running an exceedingly complex offense when a simpler offense seems to work better for most other teams???
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 1:57 pm
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