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re: Bama opens as 7 pt favorite over LSU

Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by Last call
On the lake
Member since Oct 2012
992 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:29 pm to
No doubt. The team that vegas thinks is the better team opens as favorite. Then public moves the line once betting starts. I simply made the point vegas thinks bama is the better team. Hopefully they are wrong
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:30 pm to
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This is not good news for tiger fans. Vegas is better than anyone knowing who the better team is. Hope they are wrong on this one


So Vegas now thinks Bama is 2 points better than LSU....assuming 3 points for home field. This is TERRIBLE news. LSU is doomed.

Sure glad Florida went ahead and played and didn't give up against Ole Miss when the black bears were 7 points favorite over them....
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:33 pm to
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Yea, it is and LSU is ranked #1 in thier poll. This line was set to bring in action.


They know ESPN will suck Sabans dock all week and cause heavy action on Bama later in the week. To balance that out, they wanted heavy money on LSU early. Always remember, Vegas's dream is to have even money bet on both teams and score big on the juice.

They don't care about losing the few million placed on lsu with their fake early line. They'll balance that out during the week
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:33 pm to
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Last call


Dude quit making an arse of yourself on here. You have absolutely no idea what VEGAS does. I don't even think Bama has covered at home this year, as they are often overvalued because of their name. You are on a crusade today trying to sell doom and gloom because of a fricking point spread that most everyone on this site already knew what the opening line was going to be. Get a life kid, and stop trying to act like you are some Vegas expert. You are making an arse of yourself.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:35 pm to
I think that there are many variables on what the "line" is, for any given house. (they're not all the same)

All of y'alls points are valid, but are only each one factor in a given house's line.

No matter what, they're trying to position themselves to make money. That's all you know for sure.

Certainly there are times when they may choose to set a line expecting the public to bet one way, and then they (the house) bet against the public... a true win-win if they're right.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:39 pm to
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It's definitely a concern.


stfu pussy. no it's not. I mean wtf did you think the line would be? Teams generally get 3-4 points for home field....and you already know that the media and public sentiment is strongly in favor of Alabama. If you think perception doesn't influence a line, you are absolutely ignorant.

Were they idiots to favor Ole Miss by 7 points against Florida? OM was never in that game....NEVER...yet Vegas thought they were literally 10 points better than Florida.....assuming 3 for home field.
Posted by Last call
On the lake
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:53 pm to
They are not always right. Keep in mind georgia was a favorite vs bama
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28875 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:58 pm to
Some food for thought gentleman......Bama is 1-7 ats in their last 8 at home. Perception plays the biggest part of these lines and their movement. Generally the money that comes in early are money from the sharps....the public generally gets their money in late. I'd rather sharp money moving the line early, than getting backed by the public late.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:58 pm to
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They are not always right. Keep in mind georgia was a favorite vs bama


they go with public sentiment and history...so just stop with the "concern" and "doom and gloom". I tell ya what...go bet bama on the money line.....I mean surely bama will win because VEGAS KNOWS.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:04 pm to
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They are not always right. Keep in mind georgia was a favorite vs bama


because they're not trying to be right, they're trying to balance betting. Let's say they really thought that Bama would win by 2 TD's, do you think there is any way in hell they would have set the opening line there?
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7297 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:14 pm to
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It's not an arbitrary, meaningless number. Some of you who believe this are idiots. It's definitely a concern.


The open line vs Ole Miss was Bama-7... they lost by 6.
The open line vs Tennessee was Bama-16... they won by 5.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:18 pm to
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I might go put 100 on Bama. I've never won a sports bet in my life


I will spot you the $100.00!!!!!!

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66141 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:22 pm to
Line back up to 7. ML still even.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
17258 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:24 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:57 pm
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
3822 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:40 pm to
Bama opening at -8.5 versus Ole Miss worked out okay for the Black Bears (just saying):

LINK
This post was edited on 11/1/15 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Steamy Ray
Member since Jan 2013
1026 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:53 pm to
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Any bama fans wanna play???? I'll give you bama and 3 points. Yup the Tigers win by 4 at least.......


quote:

by dukke v


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Line back up to 7. ML still even.


that's not a money line, just the price of the bet. It is a little odd how it has moved around though
Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
1773 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

This is not good news for tiger fans. Vegas is better than anyone knowing who the better team is

quote:

That is not how it works

quote:

Of course it is how it works.


Good grief, how many times will this have to be explained?

The line that Vegas puts out is NOT how they think the game will end. It is what they think is necessary to get an equal number of bets for each team.

Didn't you ever notice that the line changes during the week? It isn't because Vegas has changed their mind about the outcome of the game. It is because there are more bets on one side and they need to change the line to try to get back to an even number for each team.

Trust me - I learned this from my family who REALLY know how it works.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66141 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:56 pm to
Are you sure? It moving around is why I thought it was the ML. Do we know what the ML is?
This post was edited on 11/1/15 at 6:58 pm
Posted by LildripDraws
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2011
1609 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 6:59 pm to
Why do Yall let dukkev post here still. He gonna screw it all up
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