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Bad Play Calling vs. QB situation
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:19 am
I have seen many posts on here regarding Les Miles and Jarrett Lee. While I feel that JL deserved a shot, I don't think a QB change would have changed the outcome of the game. The bigger problem in my opinion was the awful play calling. Just wondering what upset fans more, the play calling or the fact that JL didn't see the field?
Thanks
Thanks
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:19 am to acarso1
both...let's move on.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:20 am to acarso1
How about bad O-Line blocking.....ANSWERED. NEXT TOPIC.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:20 am to acarso1
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I have seen many posts on here regarding Les Miles and Jarrett Lee.
EXACTLY....... so just start another one
:beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse:
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 11:21 am
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:23 am to acarso1
I think the playcalling (other than the options and some of the runs in the second half) wasn't that bad
Just poor execution in the passing game
Just poor execution in the passing game
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:24 am to Mr. Hangover
play calling wasnt good but its getting a bad rep. There were open WRs down the field all night on 1/9. JJ just wasnt capable of throwing the ball to them.
alabama was a team that could have been passed on. QB just didnt execute.
alabama was a team that could have been passed on. QB just didnt execute.
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:25 am to Powerman
quote:
I think the playcalling (other than the options and some of the runs in the second half) wasn't that bad
Just poor execution in the passing game
agreed
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:26 am to acarso1
Both.
I think things could have been different b/c throughout their careers JJ and JL usually did not run the same pass plays. So it is quite possible that JL's package of plays could have worked....we know JJ's didn't.
We will never know
I think things could have been different b/c throughout their careers JJ and JL usually did not run the same pass plays. So it is quite possible that JL's package of plays could have worked....we know JJ's didn't.
We will never know
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:28 am to acarso1
Handing the ball to the other team, fumbling snaps, holding the ball too long, and skipping balls to open receivers had little to do with playcalling
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:30 am to acarso1
My take is that JL's ability to get the ball out with a much quicker release (especially with a 3-step drop) would have made Bama drop back a little and not put 9 in the f'ing box on every f'ing play.
THAT would have opened up the play book considerably and we would have been able to do a lot more.
THAT would have opened up the play book considerably and we would have been able to do a lot more.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:32 am to acarso1
quote:Did you read any of them? It seems not since this topic has been covered ad nauseum.
I have seen many posts on here regarding Les Miles and Jarrett Lee.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:32 am to acarso1
Maybe by September these discussions will end.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:35 am to Newbomb Turk
I agree. There is also a big advantage in putting 2 QBs in the game and keeping the defense on their toes. In game 1, the ability to put JJ in and competely mess with their D probably won us the game. Let's face it, by half time Bama's defense had ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM handling Jordan Jefferson.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:40 am to acarso1
quote:
Let's face it, by THE COIN TOSS Bama's defense had ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM handling Jordan Jefferson.
FIFY
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:41 am to acarso1
For the last time, the play calling was terrible because if the qb! A limited qb leads to limited play calling.
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 11:43 am
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:44 am to Newbomb Turk
I haven't spoken about the game yet. So I'm going to vent a little. The real problem with the game was we were prepared to play the Nov. 5th game again and not the BCS NC game. All year we have used the run to set up the pass, the problem with the game was that AL didn't need to do any run blitzes to stop the run. Thus, the consistent 3rd & 6-10s we were in.
The problem was not the game plan, but the refusal to abandon it once we realized we were not going to be able to consistently get runs of 5+ yards. Once that happened our passing game was FUBAR. AL was able to sit on our routes and refused to give up the big play in the passing game.
Our offense was also greatly effected by McCarron's ability to hit those short routes and march down the field. We were never able to win the field position battle with Wing.
I think our QB situation was the same it was going into the game...Jefferson gave us the best chance to win. It was obvious Les had no confidence throwing Lee out there and telling him to jump start the offense. AL was consistently getting pressure on the QB which is where Lee has showed his short comings in his career.
In conclusion, A QB change wouldn't have done anything (all though it would have at least made this board more pleasant). The game plan was sound, but like the old saying says "Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the mouth." Well we got punched in the mouth by the lack of our running game to get started.
I know everyone wants to blame Jefferson/Miles but I think the loss fell on three things 1) Poor offensive line play, 2) Inability to stop McCarron's dink and dunk passing 3) Lack of creative ability to change offensive philosophy (which is easier said than done)
The problem was not the game plan, but the refusal to abandon it once we realized we were not going to be able to consistently get runs of 5+ yards. Once that happened our passing game was FUBAR. AL was able to sit on our routes and refused to give up the big play in the passing game.
Our offense was also greatly effected by McCarron's ability to hit those short routes and march down the field. We were never able to win the field position battle with Wing.
I think our QB situation was the same it was going into the game...Jefferson gave us the best chance to win. It was obvious Les had no confidence throwing Lee out there and telling him to jump start the offense. AL was consistently getting pressure on the QB which is where Lee has showed his short comings in his career.
In conclusion, A QB change wouldn't have done anything (all though it would have at least made this board more pleasant). The game plan was sound, but like the old saying says "Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the mouth." Well we got punched in the mouth by the lack of our running game to get started.
I know everyone wants to blame Jefferson/Miles but I think the loss fell on three things 1) Poor offensive line play, 2) Inability to stop McCarron's dink and dunk passing 3) Lack of creative ability to change offensive philosophy (which is easier said than done)
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:45 am to tigerbait01
quote:
For the last time
if you keep saying incorrect shite, you will prob have to keep saying it. JJ was horrible and there were open WRs downfield and he missed DP a couple of times. Once WIDE OPEN for a TD in the middle of the field. JJ just sucks that bad.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:48 am to legohairedman
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Jefferson gave us the best chance to win.
quote:
dink and dunk passing
McCarron killed us with playaction for 15-20+ yards 3 or 4 times. This was the issue. Coverage wasnt even bad he just made great throws down the field
Posted on 1/19/12 at 12:16 pm to legohairedman
Meaning qb play was terrible. Which is exactly what I meant in saying he was limited which led to limited play calling. What is incorrect about that?
Posted on 1/19/12 at 12:38 pm to acarso1
quote:
Let's face it, by half time Bama's defense had ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM handling Jordan Jefferson.
Halftime?
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