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Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:22 am
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
6586 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:22 am
outside of Poche and Lange we've don't have much. don't blame PM- it's a miracle we won so many with just two legitimate SEC arms. and the bats were silenced, which is the real story of this series.
Posted by mglsu21
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2012
1277 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:27 am to
quote:

don't blame PM


Sure let's blame the 18-22 year old hitters for physical mistakes, not the 30 year veteran coach for making horrible in game mental mistakes. Sounds fair.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
54677 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:34 am to
The coach gets credit or blame for everything. Poor player performance cost us both games, though. Four errors in game one needs no further expiation, and there was no salvation in LSU's bullpen last night. Probably CPM should have gone with Norman longer, but the game was lost by then anyway.

As I wrote in another thread, this CWS was lost in the fourth inning of game one when Poche air mailed those throws to first. It was just an unfortunate series of yips by a great player.
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1604 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:37 am to
The arms are there. They have the stuff, they did not have the command and control. That is something that must improve. You can't walk or get behind good hitters and not expect to get burned. But this is something that can improve. I expect better things from Bain and Godfrey and next year, if not Allen Dunn deserves come criticism.
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
9312 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:42 am to
I put the lack of pitching on CPM absolutely. How does this program with a national reach in recruiting not have the most lights out pitching every year? It's like not having a quarterback or developing the ones you recruit. Miles doesn't get a pass so neither does CPM.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17127 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:54 am to
Those lights out guys are few and far between and despite what you may think, not everyone wants to go to LSU. The draft gets most of the top high school pitchers.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28108 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:59 am to
The series? We haven't scored shite since auburn game in sec tourney. Thought it was all javi's fault. Guess not.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
38739 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:01 am to
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outside of Poche and Lange we've don't have much.


quote:

The coach gets credit or blame for everything.


This.
Posted by Smiling_Tiger
Heaven
Member since Nov 2012
633 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:05 am to
I blame Connor Hale
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59847 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:06 am to
all but Person, all of our arms are coming back next year. With Dunn developing the young pitchers I'm excited how good our pen will be next year.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3124 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:08 am to
I agree. Our pitchers' command and location was not very good yesterday.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65154 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:10 am to
You don't have a clue. Average arms? While I agree that some of those young pitchers need time to develop, to say that they have "average" ability is dumb. Most all of them throw in the 90s with movement. That ain't average.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:11 am to
quote:

You don't have a clue. Average arms? While I agree that some of those young pitchers need time to develop, to say that they have "average" ability is dumb. Most all of them throw in the 90s with movement. That ain't average.


Compared to Vandy and even TCU, they are just average.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:17 am to
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How does this program with a national reach in recruiting not have the most lights out pitching every year?

LSU competes for top pitchers with schools in California, Texas, Florida, three of the largest, most talent-rich states in the U.S. Schools like Cal St-Fullerton, TCU, Texas A&M, Florida, Miami, Florida St., etc. It's a CREDIT to our program that we excel in a sport where so many other top schools recruit elite talent in their own back yards.

Expecting top 1, 2 or 3 pitching staffs year in and year out is unrealistic for just about anyone--including LSU.
Posted by kjanchild
Member since Jan 2005
4129 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:43 am to
Looked like to me that every pitcher that took the mound last night was intimidated and couldn't wait to get out of the game. I saw several of them looking in the bullpen and in the dugout!
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