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re: Article on Les Miles "mistreatment of Lee"

Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:50 pm to
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What if he pulls JJ and Lee goes in there and plays terribly and we lose. Will that make everyone happy?




they will justify it....some way or another
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15737 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:51 pm to
His answers make no sense on their face. Maybe he just will not say that he has no confidence in Mr. Lee any longer. He knows his players best. Does he not?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:51 pm to
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Could you expound on this a bit?


probably not...because he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:51 pm to
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Believe it or not the other fanbases have embarrassing trailer trash also.

true...the bammers are spouting their conspiracy theories about Trent being denied the Heisman.

The upside to living out of state is I read what our trailer trash says and I don't have to see them since they don't travel well. I just see the other teams' trailer trash.
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6884 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:52 pm to
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What if he pulls JJ and Lee goes in there and plays terribly and we lose. Will that make everyone happy?


I would think not.

But would you have faulted him for yanking JJ in the SECCG? I wouldn't of. So I wouldn't fault him if he did it in the BCSCG.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:52 pm to
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His day will come, as he has 4 children. What goes around...comes around. He will remember this day when it happens to one of his kids.
You aren't threatening Les' kids are you?
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7729 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:53 pm to
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What if he pulls JJ and Lee goes in there and plays terribly and we lose. Will that make everyone happy?

Miles will not pull JJ for bad play. He MIGHT send JLee in for a series or two, but after the UGA game, I have serious doubts as to whether this will happen against Bama.

But it does raise an interesting question. At what point would Miles be justified in pulling JJ? What would the conditions have to be to justify inserting JLee into the game?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87389 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:53 pm to
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That comment represents how embarrassing the lee only crowd is. I really am starting to feel bad for these losers.
You obviously don't read your own posts.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:54 pm to
There is some crazy stuff going on up in here today.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
20486 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:56 pm to
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true...the bammers are spouting their conspiracy theories about Trent being denied the Heisman.



Stupid though the gumps may be, they're at least supporting their team, coach and player.

Where does that leave OUR fanbase?
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16999 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:56 pm to
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What if he pulls JJ and Lee goes in there and plays terribly and we lose. Will that make everyone happy?


My fear is that if we get down early by 7 or 10 (due to a slow offensive start) and have to pass, that Bama will just pin their ears back and come after the QB (whether it be JJ or JL) every down.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42422 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:56 pm to
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But would you have faulted him for yanking JJ in the SECCG? I wouldn't of. So I wouldn't fault him if he did it in the BCSCG.


No I wouldn't have faulted him for bringing in Lee in the SEC championship game. I thought he would have made a change but he didn't. But I am not fully invested in either qb feelings where it affects me about who plays more.

I just can't argue with the results and the decisions of the coaching staff this season. You would think that we weren't even bowl elgible with all this outrage.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:58 pm to
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At what point would Miles be justified in pulling JJ? What would the conditions have to be to justify inserting JLee into the game?


my guess is that injury is the only way Lee gets into this game.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42422 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:58 pm to
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AlxTgr


You agree with that person's comment that my post was in response too? Dandy D's post?

I really hope you don't.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 1:00 pm to
the fact that GG wrote this article 3 weeks before a NC game and after a 13-0 season proves that he hates Miles and doesn't really give a shite about LSU football...only his own self-inflated ego and sense of entitlement
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6884 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 1:01 pm to
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No I wouldn't have faulted him for bringing in Lee in the SEC championship game. I thought he would have made a change but he didn't. But I am not fully invested in either qb feelings where it affects me about who plays more. I just can't argue with the results and the decisions of the coaching staff this season. You would think that we weren't even bowl elgible with all this outrage


I hear you.

I'm not questioning the staff- just trying to understand this situation.

I had no issue with Lee being pulled against Bama. They rotate guys at every position based on performance. What confuses me, is that this no longer seems to be the case at QB, and it had been a two QB system for 2 years for the most part.

I get JJ starting and playing a majority of snaps. Les thinks he's better- that's fine. But when he is completely ineffective, its mind boggling to some that, apparently, Les will not remove him from the game.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 1:02 pm to
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My fear is that if we get down early by 7 or 10 (due to a slow offensive start) and have to pass, that Bama will just pin their ears back and come after the QB (whether it be JJ or JL) every down.



in this hyposthetical...i'd much rather have JJ in if bama decides to blitz every down
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24949 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 1:02 pm to
Agreed.

It never fails that when I take the time to collect thoughts and post what I feel to be something worthy, it's anchored by the time I hit submit, but I posted this in a since anchored thread earlier:

Well we know JJ could only manage 25 total yards vs Ga's starting defense and LSU's is alot better than Georgia's
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LSU has one game left to play. That game is against Alabama. REPEAT that 100 times. Then continue.

Teams throwing the ball near or over 20 times against a Saban coached Alabama team have won ZERO games.

Rushing the ball for over a 100 yards increases your odds of beating a Saban coached Alabama team by 500 percent.

Jordan Jefferson gives this LSU team the best chance to win this game. If we trail by 3 scores, or Jefferson is injured, then, and only then, should Lee see the field.

Regardless of anything that Lee has or hasn't done, Jefferson at QB is the only way you're beating Alabama. Talking Lee up is fine and dandy in so far as it relates to Alabama's game preparation, but nobody actually involved in preparation for this game is wasting time on it.

Anybody really watching the game film from the first encounter, with an eye for scheme, can see why Alabama has success with a Lee led Tiger attack. They can commit more to stopping the run, keep one safety deep, concentrate on one receiver, and bring pressure. They jam the receivers at the line to disrupt any timing routes, Upshaw, Barron, Menzie, et al are essentially lined up in our backfield.

Lee has had success with the deep ball against secondaries that don't match up well with our receivers. These opponents were caught in a numbers game, committing more to stop the run, and not having the caliber of athlete to jam our receiver, or possess the closing speed necessary to get back from the safety position, while keeping an eye on second run support.

Anyone still not convinced from a football point of view on this subject will dwell on class attendance, special functions attendance, extra-curricular activities not excluding firearms, and now a combination of physical and mental stress.

Jarrett Lee played a vital role in helping this team achieve all of its accomplishments. He has displayed nothing but character on, and from what I can tell, off the field. His loyalty and dedication will never be forgotten. He didn't face the best of circumstances in his time at LSU, and suffered much for faults of coaching and coordination. But, none of that is going to change the fact that he doesn't possess the mobility to avoid the extra man, or the composure to step into him making an accurate throw, or better yet, decision of whether or not to throw
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 1:05 pm to
Wwwaaayyyy. tl, dr
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7729 posts
Posted on 12/11/11 at 1:05 pm to
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My fear is that if we get down early by 7 or 10 (due to a slow offensive start) and have to pass,

Unless it's late in the 4th Quarter, Miles won't abandon his run philosphy. He'll still play it close to the vest and let defense and special teams win the game.
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