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re: Article - College all star game next chapter for J. Lee

Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:02 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:02 am to
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He is and has always been afraid of contact.

Myth

And it's an INSULTING myth. Worse, if they're going to apply that myth to JL in the pocket, then they're going to have to apply it to the pathetic way JJ runs the option cause man, the next time he takes on the 1st guy on the edge so that he doesn't ALSO make the damned tackle will be the first.

It is highly doubtful there are ANY players on the LSU football team that are "afraid of contact".
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:05 am to
It's just ridiculous

He has on several occasions taken big hits in the pocket and delivered the ball down field.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:07 am to
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It's just ridiculous

He has on several occasions taken big hits in the pocket and delivered the ball down field.

And then come back to do it again.

The idea that a QB who gets rid of the ball quickly is "afraid of contact" makes the moron who never gets rid of the fricking ball a freaking Spartan but last I checked, the point of a passing play was to GET THE BALL THE frick OUT!!!!!
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:08 am to
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i hope he tears shite up at that game



I expect he will.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:10 am to
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The idea that a QB who gets rid of the ball quickly is "afraid of contact" makes the moron who never gets rid of the fricking ball a freaking Spartan but last I checked, the point of a passing play was to GET THE BALL THE frick OUT!!!!!


It is another in a long line of JL hater memes created to disparage a player.

another classic:

He throws off his back foot.

-->Best when Peyton Manning described in DETAIL, ON AIR how that many times you do this to avoid the rush, that he and every QB does it and practice such throws when they are unable to step into them. Did that stop the meme, no. The haters still rotate their favorite memes in an attempt to tear the kid down.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:11 am to
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i hope he tears shite up at that game


I expect he will.

Honestly, if JL is given a shot(I suspect as a FA) and makes an NFL team and at some point in the next couple of years, starts a game or two and does well, Miles will NEVER(and should never) hear the end of it.

I'm not predicting that for JL. But holy shite, if he does it..............
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:11 am to
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He has on several occasions taken big hits in the pocket and delivered the ball down field.

He is not scared of contact.

Lee's problem is what he does when the play starts to break down. Not that JJ excelled at this in the Bama game .

But I hope he has a monster game and gets drafted somehow. Lee is a great kid, and I wish him all the best that life has to offer.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:12 am to
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Miles will NEVER(and should never) hear the end of it.

Tom Brady doesn't haunt Carr.

Only idiots will keep pushing this issue.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:13 am to
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Lee's problem is what he does when the play starts to break down. Not that JJ excelled at this in the Bama game .


Neither has excellent pocket presence BUT, JL has ALWAYS been FAR less likely to take a sack AND, people need to stop acting like 2008 was yesterday. THIS YEAR, he not only was FAR less likely to take a sack; he was ALSO very unlikely to get picked.

The kid EARNED a at least a CHANCE to have an effect on that game.
Posted by Mulat
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:14 am to
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Tom Brady doesn't haunt Carr.



You must not have read last months SI, cause clearly he does and Brady remembers it well.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:15 am to
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Tom Brady doesn't haunt Carr.

Brady started EVERY GAME for two seasons. WTF are you talking about? He was a ALL-Big 10 and set Michigan records for completions.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:16 am to
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The kid EARNED a at least a CHANCE to have an effect on that game.
I agree he should have come in. I have said so on a number of occasions.

I just don't think it would have had an effect on the outcome. That is where people get mad at me.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:16 am to
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Brady started EVERY GAME for two seasons. WTF are you talking about? He was a ALL-Big 10 and set Michigan records for completions.

AND, the guy Brady played behind before he started ALSO started a lot in the NFL.

Sheesh. At least TRY.
Posted by cajuntigertowm
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:16 am to
It's being shown on Fox College Sports Channel with Cox Cable in SW La. Not sure about BR area.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:18 am to
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I just don't think it would have had an effect on the outcome. That is where people get mad at me.

Well I'm not sure it would've affected the outcome. Nothing wrong with that.

Frankly, I think we were going to lose either way but I don't think you decide that in the fricking 3rd quarter if you're the COACH!

And of course, JL also earned a wee bit more respect and play in the Arky and UGA blowout wins too(and the cotton bowl last year). It was just a COMPLETE and TOTAL disregard for what he contributed to this team's success.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:18 am to
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Brady started EVERY GAME for two seasons. WTF are you talking about?
He got benched for Henson on a number of occasions.

But fine, for another example, Keiland Williams doesn't haunt Miles.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 10:20 am
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:19 am to
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He got benched for Henson on a number of occasions.

Who ALSO played in the NFL.

I mean yeah, obviously Brady ended up better but it aint like the guys he played behind were scrubs.

The closest JJ is going to get to an NFL field is if he hooks up as an analyst on ESPN.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:21 am to
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The closest JJ is going to get to an NFL field is if he hooks up as an analyst on ESPN.

I think he could catch on as a TE project.

He is an athletic kid.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:24 am to
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I think he could catch on as a TE project.

He is an athletic kid.



wut?

with people Like Gronkowsi, Gates, Witten Gonzalez, etc, etc.

This is the golden age of TEs in the NFL. JJ is also nowhere near big enough. Remember TEs have to block.

Keep dreaming.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:24 am to
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I think he could catch on as a TE project.

He is an athletic kid.
Obviously that's conjecture on the TE thing and I've nothing to go on concerning it.

That said, I honestly think that JJ is a great example of someone who get the word "athletic" applied to him PRIMARILY cause he happens to be black.

He isn't very elusive. He runs a bit clumsy. He seems to have virtually no field awareness. I mean, how often has it seemed like he practically ran TO the tackler?

I view him as a guy who was kinda fast for a QB. But, I never thought of him as athletic at all. Matt Flynn was FAR more "athletic". So was Mauck.
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