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re: Are you okay with PM's decision to start Chinea every single game?

Posted on 3/18/15 at 10:57 am to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 10:57 am to
15...

Pretty bad RBI/PA for a guy who's been at cleanup for almost every game. He's 3rd on the team and only leads Scivicque and Foster by 1.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 10:58 am to
quote:

what's Chi's RBI number and who does everyone else want in his place?


rbi stats..pfft.


pretty pointless stat.
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 10:59 am to
quote:

not reading 14 pgs...what's Chi's RBI number and who does everyone else want in his place?



repost of everything in the other thread....


quote:

I'm open for some rotation, but a few things need to be permanent at least for a while:


1) Breg, Hale, Sciv should be 3-4-5 (or 2-3-4 would be fine)
2) Kramer should play 2nd and bat 9th
3) Chinea needs to be batting 7th or 8th as the DH only IF he MUST play for whatever reason that seems to be.



eta: I'll put this here once again...

Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97016 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:03 am to
Among 10 position players (leaving Pap off for now. In my made up qualification line he doesnt have enough plate appearances):


OPS: 9th
OB%: 8th
AVG: 7th
Slugging: 9th
GPA: 9th
Posted by Lsubaseball2000
Member since Mar 2015
256 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:04 am to
Of course others matter. But I want my hot risp hitter with more chances to drive in runs. I want him to be right behind the highest OB%. Not sure how you don't get that. I'm idiotic because a player who score a Risp half the time. Better than any other player we have. You guys would rather have a .400 batter with .200 risp average than a .280 with .500 risp average. That's absurd. I want runs I don't want hits. And I know RBIs are a good judge of it but the risp average is better.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:05 am to
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Breg, Hale, Sciv should be 3-4-5
that would be an obvious move

quote:

Kramer should play 2nd and bat 9th

dude... Kramer at the plate is just downright atrocious. I would almost sacrifice 1 error / game w/ Foster and leave Chinea in...no?

I think tomo night we will see CPM true intentions for the lineup going into SEC play. KS might feel more comfortable batting down, as was evidenced last year when his avg fell off at 4.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:06 am to
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But I want my hot risp hitter


Omg, I'm tearing up.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97016 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:07 am to
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Kramer at the plate is just downright atrocious. I would almost sacrifice 1 error / game w/ Foster and leave Chinea in...no?


I guess you would probably be surprised to see the difference in Kramer and Chinea's OPS.
Posted by Lsubaseball2000
Member since Mar 2015
256 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:07 am to
Tearing up with all those runs. Hells yea.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:07 am to
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Kramer at the plate is just downright atrocious
At 9th, no one's asking him to hit the cover off the ball. He needs to get on base and turn the lineup over. He has a higher OBP than Zardon, Chinea, and Fraley. And he's hitting .250... a number that EVERYONE who commented on him said he needed to hit to be valuable and stay in the lineup.

But you keep on sheeping.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 11:08 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:10 am to
BA w RISP is a dumb stat. josh has already provided a link with proof of this. It's hilarious that you rely on it solely.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:10 am to
I'm still #ridingforbyrd
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22967 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:10 am to
What Kramer brings to the field could be the difference in a game at some point. He gets on base at a .362 clip, currently higher than Fraley, Zardon, and Chinea. The 2015 ball has changed the game to an extent, but this isn't the 90s. Pitching and defense are still going to win you games at TDA when it counts. If Kramer gets in there and sniffs the Mendoza, then you make the change back.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:11 am to
quote:

I want runs I don't want hits. And I know RBIs are a good judge of it but the risp average is better.
Oh my god.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:11 am to
He'd get more time at 2B if PM wasn't dead set on DHing Chinea
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97016 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:12 am to
I'm not sure i think it's dumb. It's just overvalued.


And the guy who keeps bringing it up acts like if Chinea was moved down to 8th he somehow would never come to the plate with runners in scoring position anymore.

Also his BA with RISP is a pretty small sample. About 1/3 of the size of his total at bats. So it needs to be taken with a bit of a grain of salt.
Posted by Lsubaseball2000
Member since Mar 2015
256 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:14 am to
I'd say OPS is dumber. Over weighs OB%.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Also his BA with RISP is a pretty small sample. About 1/3 of the size of his total at bats. So it needs to be taken with a bit of a grain of salt.
That was one of the main points of the article.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97016 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:15 am to
Kramer has been ok at the plate too recently. Last 3 games he's:

2-2 with 2 BB
0-1
1-2


Very small sample size but I think if you combine this with how Foster has looked at second it's time to give him a chance at another start at 2nd.

But Foster still needs to be in the lineup. Sit either Fraley or Chinea.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I'd say OPS is dumber. Over weighs OB%.
Wait wait wait... you think Slugging is more important than OBP? Yet Chinea...

Wow.
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