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re: Are we incapable of admitting that process matters?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 12:59 pm to Uncommon Cents
Posted on 11/28/10 at 12:59 pm to Uncommon Cents
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That was horrible coaching, but Dooley is young and he won't make that mistake again. But I forget. Which team WON?
LSU won. But don't start calling luck "undefinable".
If every game on the schedule played out that way at the end of the game, and we "won" them all, you would be happy with the coach at that point?
you're a liar if you say yes.
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 12:59 pm to Tiger JJ
Uncommon Sense and ipodking would rather be lucky than good. Because luck lasts forever, it never runs out. While process does not matter.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 12:59 pm to Lester Earl
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would you call it luck that against FL in the Swamp, that our holder tosses an irregular shaped ball on a fake field goal that just so happens to bounce straight up into the kickers stomach.....Good coaching? Or luck?
bad luck, the play was not supposed to bounce
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:00 pm to Tiger JJ
quote:It did for me, until we beat Saban.
Are we incapable of admitting that process matters?
Then it was like, frick, whatever works.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:01 pm to ForeLSU
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both...
That was some of the worst in-game coaching I have ever seen. Right there with the end of the Ole Miss clock debacle.
sorry, but good coaches do not make mistakes like this, and especially not twice or 3 or 4 times.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:01 pm to Lester Earl
I'm not a liar and I say a resounding YES. Winning is what matters. It is the only hting that matters. This isn't synchronized swimming. Style points don't matter. I would be thrilled to win every game by 1 point.
All this second guessing is pointless.
Just win baby.
All this second guessing is pointless.
Just win baby.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:02 pm to Tiger JJ
quote:
JerseyTiger
Has never played organized sports. frick a process, you win 13 straight games or 10 out of 12 in any competitive sport, you have worked your arse off.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:02 pm to Lester Earl
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would you call it luck vs Tenn when they had 13 players on the field and Les Miles had his head up his arse?
or is that just good coaching?
When Tennessee failed to abide by the rules, they lost. It was pitiful that their coach allowed 13 men on the field.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:02 pm to Uncommon Cents
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I'm not a liar and I say a resounding YES. Winning is what matters. It is the only hting that matters. This isn't synchronized swimming. Style points don't matter. I would be thrilled to win every game by 1 point.
All this second guessing is pointless.
Just win baby.
I wish every day that I was this simple minded
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:02 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
That was some of the worst in-game coaching I have ever seen.
the play was easily there, nothing wrong with the call in that spot...it won the game.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:03 pm to Uncommon Cents
quote:Couldn't you just as easily make the opposite argument: Wouldn't you say that consistently putting your team in the position to lose in the last minutes of games against inferior opponents is pretty shitty coaching?
Wouldn't you say that consistantly putting your team in a position to win in the last minutes of a game is pretty good coaching?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:03 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Are we incapable of admitting that process matters?
It did for me, until we beat Saban.
Then it was like, frick, whatever works.
And then, the more I watch football and pay attention to coaching, the more I realize there aren't many good coaches out there...
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:04 pm to Hitchcock
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When Tennessee failed to abide by the rules, they lost. It was pitiful that their coach allowed 13 men on the field.
ok, let's throw Tenn out of the discussion. Let's throw out whether or not we won or not. Let's just talk about the situation on LSU's end.
did you like LSU's coaching there at the end of the game?
do you think the decisions made reflect the decisions that one of the highest paid college football coaches would make?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:05 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
I wish every day that I was this simple minded
Just go up to the teachers aide at your special school and ask if there are any things you can do to raise your intelligence.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:06 pm to Tiger JJ
Yes, process matters. Although I believe Miles' process can work with the right coaching personnel which means getting rid of Crowton..
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:08 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Wouldn't you say that consistantly putting your team in a position to win in the last minutes of a game is pretty good coaching
Can't really answer that question with out the specifics. In college there is huge gap in the level of talent between the top teams and the bottom. Are we talking about evenly matched teams or not? Also hard to say without seeing the specifics of how the games played out.
There is a lot that goes into college coaching. Les Miles is a pretty good coach, just not a great one. He can win big, but could also frustrate us with incomprehensible loses or plays.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:09 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Miles' process makes me pull my hair out.
Yes, process matters. Although I believe Miles' process can work with the right coaching personnel which means getting rid of Crowton..
But it can remain successful with superior recruiting and his ability to get the team to play for him.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:09 pm to ForeLSU
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the play was easily there, nothing wrong with the call in that spot...it won the game.
They ran a running play with 30 seconds left with zero timeouts, didnt score, then proceeded to run 5 players out on the field as the time ticked away. No one knew what they were doing, or what was going on. Considering it was 3rd down, the ball could have been spiked and the offense could have huddled. You cant be serious to think that was a good coaching sequence.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:10 pm to Lester Earl
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Let's throw out whether or not we won or not. Let's just talk about the situation on LSU's end.
did you like LSU's coaching there at the end of the game?
do you think the decisions made reflect the decisions that one of the highest paid college football coaches would make?
Yes. Rushing Ridley into the endzone was high percentage football.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 1:11 pm to Hitchcock
quote:
Yes. Rushing Ridley into the endzone was high percentage football.
and the sequence leading up to that was OK with you?
good coaching?
YEAH, Miles knew Tenn was going to have 13 players on the field and get an extra play. ThaT MAN IS A GENIUS!!!!!
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