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re: Are JJ or Lee draftable?
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:04 pm to Roaad
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:04 pm to Roaad
quote:
I remember Matt Detillier's report from that camp.
Something along the lines of the coach wondering how this kid got there. That he was the worst guy at the camp, by a large margin.
He reported that on Scout msg board, and LSU fans ripped him for it.
Well shite. Didnt know that...
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Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:09 pm to TheDoc
He left and took the TigerRag domain with him a month or so later
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:10 pm to Roaad
quote:
I just proved it is possible.
You didn't prove anything, you just pointed out an exception and said "look you don't have to!"
And I'm done arguing with you. IMO, Lee has the better chance to be evaluated by the pros and possibly make a P.S. You think JJ is better than Lee mechanics-wise. Agree to disagree, we'll go round and round.
We can agree on this: Neither one is really worth a shite. The difference are marginal at best.
This post was edited on 4/16/11 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:13 pm to boxcar willie
quote:I've been critical of both and called them both crappy quarterbacks.... I am not as blatant about it as yourself Quad
Tduecen dosen't like when people are critical of Lee, but it's OK to be critical of Jefferson.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:15 pm to Hulkklogan
quote:You said his being a better passer means his mechanics are better.
You didn't prove anything, you just pointed out an exception and said "look you don't have to!"
I showed you that it is an invalid logic leap.
Better mechanics usually makes a better passer. . .but being a better passer can be a result of any number of things.
Lots of guys with shitty mechanics are great passers.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:16 pm to Hulkklogan
quote:I agree.
We can agree on this: Neither one is really worth a shite. The difference are marginal at best.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:16 pm to Roaad
quote:
At the Elite 11, Lee impressed each workout and has a very nice upside to him. The signal caller came out firing the first day showing off a strong, accurate arm and the quickest release in the event. In fact, Lee was voted by the college counselors as having the "Quickest Release" in the camp. He has also quick feet, gets good depth on his drops and has plus arm strength. He has the kind of frame that will have no problems holding up to getting hit in college and in about three years, we could see Lee at around 6-3, 230 pounds. The athlete is very coachable and made nice strides during the chalk talks. He’s a cerebral, almost serious kid but has a strong personality and is a natural born leader and a good fit at LSU." by Greg Biggins handles player personnel for the prestigious NIKE Football Training Camps
Dallas Rivals
Another Guy had Lee:
7 Jarrett Lee
Brenham (TX) Brenham QB 6-2/192 LSU
A pro-style quarterback who can escape the pocket.
This post was edited on 4/16/11 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:19 pm to tduecen
Detillier's quotes came directly from the coaches there.
He became a pariah on the Scout board that day. . .and he had nothing against Lee. He had nothing to gain by lying about Lee.
I'm inclined to buy it. . .especially knowing what we know now.
I got raped on this board when I relayed the report here.
He became a pariah on the Scout board that day. . .and he had nothing against Lee. He had nothing to gain by lying about Lee.
I'm inclined to buy it. . .especially knowing what we know now.
I got raped on this board when I relayed the report here.
This post was edited on 4/16/11 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:20 pm to tduecen
May as well give it up deucen, there's no proving Roaad wrong. 
This post was edited on 4/16/11 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:20 pm to Roaad
Interesting thread to see everyone's opinion. People have mentioned releases, arm strength, nerves etc., but both these guys have struggled with the speed of the game and this is why they're considred poor decision makers. You can't speed up the game for them (going to the NFL) and expect them to develop. LSU just needs them to manage the offense and minimize turnovers. That's not happening in the NFL....neither are NFL material.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:21 pm to tduecen
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A pro-style quarterback who can escape the pocket.
nice
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:23 pm to tduecen
quote:
A pro-style quarterback who can escape the pocket.
Do have to
that one.Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:28 pm to Roaad
Looking back many scouts said he had enough mobility to escape the pocket and he ran a 4.68 40 time....
So I blame Crowton
So I blame Crowton
Posted on 4/16/11 at 3:01 pm to tduecen
quote:
Jarrett Lee
6-3, 195 lbs.
Brenham (Texas)
Attended the NIKE Camp and Elite 11 camps in College Station but it was at the Las Vegas Elite 11 camp in June where he really shined. In what was a very strong crop of signal callers, Lee was the best of the best that day and was invited to the final Elite 11 camp on the spot. Lee is super-efficient passer with a good arm and great understanding of the position. Had a terrific junior season in '05 at Brenham after moving from Brownwood, earning all-area and all-state honors and leading the Cubs to a 14-1 record and a state semifinals appearance. Has a very quick release, a live arm and a great quarterback body that will be able to stand up to the pounding all signal callers take in college.
LINK
Posted on 4/16/11 at 3:05 pm to Central Tiger Sr
duhhh... can youn spell wishful thinking ?
Posted on 4/16/11 at 3:13 pm to 4orlsu
Lee is one of the best looking QB's when you watch him in drills that you will ever see. Quick release, looks smooth, but put him in live action and it's a whole nother story. Like someone said, it's just the speed of the game. He just couldn't adapt to it. Neither could Jefferson, but at least his mobility gives him more options and at times it seems like he is coming around up to the speed of the game. If Lee can't handle the speed of the game on the college level (though it is the SEC) how in the hell is he going to handle the speed of the game on the NFL level. No chance
Posted on 4/16/11 at 3:35 pm to boxcar willie
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Lee committed to LSU in late May and will be able to learn all about the Tiger program from current Tiger starting QB JaMarcus Russell, one of this year's counselors.
Lol
Posted on 4/16/11 at 3:37 pm to TheDoc
We found the issue
Posted on 4/16/11 at 3:45 pm to tduecen
Jamarcus didn't throw many ints..
Posted on 4/16/11 at 3:51 pm to TheDoc
21 in 797 attempts..... 
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