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Anyone else see the irony here?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:56 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:56 am
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National Champion and Former LSU Coach Les Miles discusses the advantages athletes have participating in the Under Armour Elite Passing Academy presented by The Quarterback Ranch when getting ready for Friday Nights in the Fall.
And yes I do know he's not our coach anymore.
National Champion and Former LSU Coach Les Miles discusses the advantages athletes have participating in the Under Armour Elite Passing Academy presented by The Quarterback Ranch when getting ready for Friday Nights in the Fall.
And yes I do know he's not our coach anymore.
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:58 am to tigerbait1970
Les, who gives a shite ? 
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:06 am to tigerbait1970
He knows QB talent when he sees it
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:06 am to tigerbait1970
Les's problem was not that he didnt know or understand the importance of throwing the ball that is just another rant myth.
Les's problem was he loved to run the ball and couldn't recruit and/or develop a qb that he trusted to throw the ball so he relied too much on that running game.
Russell
Flynn
Mettenberger
All three guys that threw the ball a ton because Les trusted them to throw the ball.
Les's problem was he loved to run the ball and couldn't recruit and/or develop a qb that he trusted to throw the ball so he relied too much on that running game.
Russell
Flynn
Mettenberger
All three guys that threw the ball a ton because Les trusted them to throw the ball.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:24 am to tigerbait1970
I know Les has made all of us very frustrated the past few years but he doesn't deserve to constantly be shite on by this fanbase. He sustained the best decade ever for LSU football and loves the state and university. The dude turned down a job at Michigan, his alma mater, to stay at LSU. That says a lot for a Michigan man to turn down that job to stay here. Les should be celebrated for his successes
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:30 am to tigerbait1970
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Under Armour Elite Passing Academy presented by The Quarterback Ranch
Anyone else see the ridiculousness here?
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:31 am to The Mad Fratter
Despite his unfortunate nom de plume and regrettable choice of colleges, The Fratter is right.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:36 am to nitwit
Yeah my name sucks but I've just been using the OM icon to troll their fans on the SEC rant. Been an LSU fan my whole life
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:42 am to The Mad Fratter
Still too fresh in people's minds and hearts. People around here LOVE LSU and we all know what this university is capable of which is excellence on and off the field. LSU can stay with anyone with the right guy calling the shots who is determined to fix the issues LSU had at all costs. Miles wasn't willing to do that apparently, so he was fired. In time I believe the fans will forgive him for not doing the things that needed to be done to put LSU at the very top of the CFB world consistently. He really did try in his own way but that way wasn't working so he should have made minor adjustments. His time here is done now though and it's time to move on. Good luck coach O, I think most LSU fans are 100% behind you now! HTT
Posted on 7/12/17 at 12:22 pm to geauxtigers33
Les's problem was not that he didnt know or understand the importance of throwing the ball that is
would you please stop with this? les never trusted his qb to throw the ball. he let them throw when they had to. Russell was a really excellent sandlot qb. his big plays (see esp. SEC championship vs Ga) when he was forced to throw on 3rd and he could move around and knock defenders off him and sling it downfield.
Flynn was extraordinarily efficient on 3rd and short to medium.
he took the ball out of mett's hands too often. I remember the Alabama game where we had the ball and the lead and just needed to run the time off the clock. mett was unstoppable that day but when we needed a first down we ran ALL 3 downs! les never trusted a QB in his life. He was faced with situations where he had to let them throw.
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just another rant myth.
Les's problem was he loved to run the ball and couldn't recruit and/or develop a qb that he trusted to throw the ball so he relied too much on that running game.
Russell
Flynn
Mettenberger
All three guys that threw the ball a ton because Les trusted them to throw the ball.
would you please stop with this? les never trusted his qb to throw the ball. he let them throw when they had to. Russell was a really excellent sandlot qb. his big plays (see esp. SEC championship vs Ga) when he was forced to throw on 3rd and he could move around and knock defenders off him and sling it downfield.
Flynn was extraordinarily efficient on 3rd and short to medium.
he took the ball out of mett's hands too often. I remember the Alabama game where we had the ball and the lead and just needed to run the time off the clock. mett was unstoppable that day but when we needed a first down we ran ALL 3 downs! les never trusted a QB in his life. He was faced with situations where he had to let them throw.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 12:50 pm to stephendomalley
Met was hot and if les wouldn't have nutted up no doubt mett would have made another throw or two to ice the game.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:13 pm to geauxtigers33
He absolutely hated turnovers more than anything on earth. It didn't matter if it was a QB throwing pics or a RB fumbling.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:24 pm to TriDitty
What many of you are saying can be summed up with one phrase: Risk Adverse
and then the * of ... when it comes to the passing game.
That was the maddening part. He'd go for it on 1,000 4th downs but wouldn't pass to the TE on the hashes with the S up and the LB crashing on 3rd and 3.
One thing I've loved about some coaches was their choice of time to take risks. Lou Holtz would always throw it deep (usually to a TE, middle of field) when backed up against the goal line. Saban does the same thing, except he likes the TE hashes-to-sideline. Hell, he did it twice in a row against AU one year when the first one was open but it was a bad pass.
Why? %'s said you were likely not to drive the field anyway. The risk was worth it. But Miles, where passing was concerned, sometimes seemed to let the risk on a particular play scare him more than net on a drive, qtr, or game.
and then the * of ... when it comes to the passing game.
That was the maddening part. He'd go for it on 1,000 4th downs but wouldn't pass to the TE on the hashes with the S up and the LB crashing on 3rd and 3.
One thing I've loved about some coaches was their choice of time to take risks. Lou Holtz would always throw it deep (usually to a TE, middle of field) when backed up against the goal line. Saban does the same thing, except he likes the TE hashes-to-sideline. Hell, he did it twice in a row against AU one year when the first one was open but it was a bad pass.
Why? %'s said you were likely not to drive the field anyway. The risk was worth it. But Miles, where passing was concerned, sometimes seemed to let the risk on a particular play scare him more than net on a drive, qtr, or game.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:28 pm to stephendomalley
quote:
he took the ball out of mett's hands too often
Good point, Mett only had 2 receivers to catch passes for over 1,000 yards in the same year.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:57 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:
Good point, Mett only had 2 receivers to catch passes for over 1,000 yards in the same year.
hell, man, that's my point. these 2 guys were great receivers but we didn't trust our qb in critical situations. I had hope that season because the first 3 or 4 games we didn't think we could win by just running and we were mixing up the pass plays well and having success. then we played either florida or auburn in the wet and we managed to beat them without passing and that was the end of our "attacking" pass game. sure, we still threw, but mostly when we had to.
if les would've loved the passing game, well, I can only dream about how great it would've been.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 5:02 pm to The Mad Fratter
upvoted for sanity
Posted on 7/12/17 at 5:07 pm to stephendomalley
quote:Ole Miss was lost on INTs, and that season D wasn't at LSU norms.
I had hope that season because the first 3 or 4 games we didn't think we could win by just running and we were mixing up the pass plays well and having success. then we played either florida or auburn in the wet and we managed to beat them without passing and that was the end of our "attacking" pass game. sure, we still threw, but mostly when we had to.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 6:54 pm to TriDitty
quote:
He absolutely hated turnovers more than anything on earth. It didn't matter if it was a QB throwing pics or a RB fumbling.
Doesn't every football coach?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:05 pm to stephendomalley
quote:
ALL 3 downs! les never trusted a QB in his life. He was faced with situations where he had to let them throw.
And did the exact opposite against Clemson and got bashed for not running the ball.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:47 am to dgnx6
quote:true. But still maddening (to me). And for us, that was indeed pass happy. Almost 50% passes.
quote:
ALL 3 downs! les never trusted a QB in his life. He was faced with situations where he had to let them throw.
And did the exact opposite against Clemson and got bashed for not running the ball.
Clemson/Venables stunted all game and were eating our OL up, especially on the edges. All fricking game. We only passed 23 times (48 plays, 9 1st downs total), 1 INT and 6 sacks while Hill had 2 TD runs and 120+ yds on 12 carries. The adjustment missed was not in what type of playcalling really, but in plays called to help the OL. They just kept getting eat up all game. From what I could tell Venables never adjusted either because he didn't have to counter and Clemson was controlling the game from the offensive side of the ball.
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