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Anybody See The Article On Foxsports Regarding LSU Recruiting -- Not Good

Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:06 pm
Posted by acarso1
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:06 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:08 pm to
Why is this not good?

quote:

“That’s one of about a dozen recruiting services we contracted with,” said Vincent of Lyles’ Complete Scouting Services.



This post was edited on 3/14/11 at 6:10 pm
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:09 pm to
Danke?
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by Funreaux
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:11 pm to
Not really concerned with it.

Every school does it. They just needed a news story to run.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

acarso1


Is that German for post less?
Posted by acarso1
Denver, CO
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:44 pm to
This is why it is not good


"If Lyles assisted in or was involved in the recruitment of any player to LSU, the NCAA would consider him a booster and any payment to him would be considered a violation of Bylaw 13. The rule prohibits boosters from directing a recruit to a school."
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

"If Lyles assisted in or was involved in the recruitment of any player to LSU, the NCAA would consider him a booster and any payment to him would be considered a violation of Bylaw 13. The rule prohibits boosters from directing a recruit to a school."
says who?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

LSU paid $6,000 in December for football scouting services provided by Will Lyles, about whom a Tigers signee was interviewed last week by NCAA investigators.

Louisiana State University associate athletic director Herb Vincent said Monday the Tigers paid the money to Lyles’ business, Complete Scouting Services. Vincent said he did not know whether LSU paid Lyles in previous years.

“That’s one of about a dozen recruiting services we contracted with,” said Vincent of Lyles’ Complete Scouting Services.


This isn't going to end well. I don't care how man other schools do this.
Posted by willeaux
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:52 pm to
So what did this Lyles guy do for us and Oregon exactly?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 6:58 pm to
So it's against the rules to pay someone to help you recruit? That's their job. It's a recruiting service. It's not a big deal at all.
News needs stories to run and you're eating it up. Just because Auburn is going down in flames at some point doesn't mean we are.
There's a difference between paying people to come here and paying someone to get people to come here.
Posted by acarso1
Denver, CO
Member since Sep 2010
30 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:01 pm to
What are your thoughts on it being the same person that Oregon paid who could very well "go down in flames"?

Or about the fact that he has been ducking any contact from any form of authority?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

So it's against the rules to pay someone to help you recruit? That's their job. It's a recruiting service. It's not a big deal at all.
News needs stories to run and you're eating it up. Just because Auburn is going down in flames at some point doesn't mean we are.
There's a difference between paying people to come here and paying someone to get people to come here.



You are way off the mark.

It is absolutely against the rules to pay someone to help you recruit.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

So it's against the rules to pay someone to help you recruit?


recruiting service firms provide info. they're not supposed to steer players to certain schools.
Posted by willeaux
Member since Jan 2006
2922 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:04 pm to
Thats why I want to know exactly what this guy did for his money.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:05 pm to
I guess I don't really understand then. They're supposed to be completely bias in gathering and providing info on certain recruits? Why can't schools just do that themselves, I don't see the point.
Posted by LSU77
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
3370 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:07 pm to
Didn't we pay him when he worked for Elite recruiting service or something like that. I think we use that service every year. I see nothing wrong here. We paid for a service received, nothing more.
Posted by brdcstr
Calabasas, CA
Member since Aug 2005
510 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

says who?


Says the NCAA bylaws.

quote:

13.02.14 Representative of Athletics Interests. A “representative of the institution’s athletics interests” is an individual, independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution’s executive or athletics administration to: (Revised: 2/16/00)

(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution’s intercollegiate athletics program;

(c) Be assisting or to have been requested (by the athletics department staff) to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;
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(e) Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution’s athletics program.

Posted by LSU77
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
3370 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:11 pm to
The guy quit and went out on his own AFTER LSU dealt with him, thats when the Ducks paid him and why they will get in trouble. LSU did nothing wrong.
Posted by brdcstr
Calabasas, CA
Member since Aug 2005
510 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

I see nothing wrong here. We paid for a service received, nothing more.



According to the article, if Lyles did indeed accompany your coach on a visit to Randal's high school, you would have a difficult case to make that he wasn't assisting LSU in the recruitment of a player.

If true, LSU did receive more than just his scouting services.

quote:

Hartman declined comment last week about his meeting with the NCAA investigators. But in January he told FOXSports.com that LSU defensive line coach Brick Haley accompanied Lyles to Clear Springs High last spring in a visit about Randle.
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