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re: Any Updates On The LSU Fan In The Infamous Video?
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:42 am to arlo
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:42 am to arlo
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arlo
What exactly is your point? Alabama is overwhelmingly full of "classy" and self-controlled fans? This is just one bad apple and no one would complain if it were the other teams? We're all hypocrites? Is that what you're trying to say?
If so, I respectfully disagree. The behavior witnessed BEFORE the game and after the 11/5 game has forever changed my perception of that fanbase. This is just one example, but it speaks to the mentality. Look at newspaper comments, even posters on here defending this guy. Clearly they’re protecting his identity. Like the other poster I saw Updyke signing autographs and warmly embraced as a hero. I posted a link in this thread from the newspaper. I was also sad to hear another Katrina joke in T-Town.
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:42 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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I've witnessed many LSU fans doing stupid things or saying stupid things to other fans in different environments, whether it was a football, basketball or baseball game.
In EVERY occasion, either myself or some other LSU fan would intervene. Almost every time, the "victim" would be taken to a tailgate when it was over, apologized to profusely, and everyone would attempt to make up for the actions of the idiot by feeding and loading down the fan with free alcohol. Almost every occasion, said idiot who committed the act was a student or fan ages 18-25.
Hell, I've gotten into it with fellow LSU fans who trashed campus after sporting events.
Agreed, as have I EZE. On two occassions I stepped in to break up bullying by some local village idiots who were trying to intimidate some old people leaving the stadium.
IMO, if it's not society's responsibility to stop shite like this, then who's is it, the police who are almost never anywhere near it? It's over before you can even find a cop, and good luck finding the people when you return with a cop.
Nah, it's our responsibility to police our own.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:42 am to arlo
They poison trees when they lose and sexually assault when they win. I am sure it sucks to be a gump
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:45 am to arlo
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Were all the LSU fans choirboys?
Read my post above. Harvey Updyke and the Tea Bagger are representative of the typical Bama fan and they sure make us look like choir boys.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:49 am to Mike da Tigah
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Never in my life, and I've been hammered drunk at LSU games plenty, have I ever thought it might be funny to pull by sack out and rub it on another person. Nor did I think it would be interesting to hump their head with my junk. NO, drunk or sober, it's never crossed my mind. The problem here with both the t-bagger as well as those who thought it was funny, or those who refused to step in and break that filth up is that deep down inside there is something wrong with them. THAT'S what's going on. The alcohol simply reveals what's really going on in them.
Some people drink and go on auto-pilot. I was generally the sober mother hen. I carried one of my buddies back to base, and he gave me a bloody lip on the trip home. He was having an alcoholic blackout. He had no idea the next morning why his knuckles were all bloody. He was punching the taxi when he got out.
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It has nothing to do with bravado, and everything to do with being a grown up. The victim is getting sexually assaulted. I, as a bystander, am walking by and witness a sexual assault taking place, and am a grown up human being. It is my duty, regardless of what color a person is wearing, to step in and break up what I know is filth and an assault on another human being wearing the other color.
Get the police who were right outside, unless you're a real badass who wants to wade into a bunch of drunks and start telling them what to do.
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I see stuff like this as nothing more than a break down in society, and for people regardless of the color they sport to do nothing to break it up but rather sit there and laugh at it demonstrates just how screwed up much of our society has become.
I agree. There are many activities like this that creep me out, and I choose not to participate or even be anywhere close. Some people take the idea of personal freedom to the extreme where they think they can do anything with repercussions.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:51 am to Oyster
quote:Probably not. But, they could be charged with inciting a felony.
Tut you think any of the others will be charged as accessories?
Teabagger could get hit with Sexual Battery (and Oral Sexual Battery if he actually touched the guys mouth with his balls). And, it gets worse for him from there. If a sexual battery is committed when a person cannot consent or resist because:
quote:Then, the offender
(ii) The victim is incapable, through unsoundness of mind, of understanding the nature of the act, and the offender knew or should have known of the victim's incapacity.
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shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than twenty-five years nor more than ninety-nine years. At least twenty-five years of the sentence imposed shall be served without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:54 am to Farkwad
I will not pass judgement on all Alabama fans, I will say that many chanted "Roll Tide" while the attack was going on and videoed it. Many also treated Updike like a hero not the POS he really is. I always heard that actions speak louder than words.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:55 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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What exactly is your point? Alabama is overwhelmingly full of "classy" and self-controlled fans? This is just one bad apple and no one would complain if it were the other teams?
For the most part, both fan bases are "overwhelmingly full of "classy" and self-controlled fans." Let me ask you this. If the shoe was on the other foot, would there be any LSU posts here about how it was no big deal and the guy got what he deserved? TIA.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:59 am to RhodeIslandRed
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Harvey Updyke and the Tea Bagger are representative of the typical Bama fan and they sure make us look like choir boys.
Maybe I should judge all citizens from LA by the crap I saw in NOLA 3 days after Katrina? Nah. That would just be hateful and stupid.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:01 am to arlo
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Let me ask you this. If the shoe was on the other foot, would there be any LSU posts here about how it was no big deal and the guy got what he deserved? TIA.
I don't think the LSU fan base would protect this guy as Alabama is doing. The names and IDs of several are well known. The first kid that unbuckles his pants is the son a Mobile sportscaster! I also don't think LSU would condone and defend this guy either, certainly not to the extent the Alabama fan base appears to be doing.
I also don't think a Harvey Updyke would become a beloved icon either, as he appears to be.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:05 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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I don't think the LSU fan base would protect this guy as Alabama is doing
I would hope not.
And to try and compare this to the behavior of huricane (and not the alcoholic variety) victims in a crisis is just about as weak as it gets, but that's a Bama fan for you.
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 9:07 am
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:05 am to bendellee
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shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than twenty-five years nor more than ninety-nine years. At least twenty-five years of the sentence imposed shall be served without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
Instead of playing on Tigerdroppings I'd be on my way to Brazil.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:06 am to arlo
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Let me ask you this. If the shoe was on the other foot, would there be any LSU posts here about how it was no big deal and the guy got what he deserved? TIA.
I am almost positive they would be drowned out by posts of disgust, and the posters would most likely fade into the shadows as they are ridiculed. I could see the anger being even greater than in this case, since embarrassment would also play a factor.
The guy would have also been ID'd within hours by the OT and his life would become much more miserable.
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And to try and compare this to the behavior of huricane victims in a crisis is just about as weak as it gets,
Seriously, that was a pretty ignorant analogy. Stupidity comes through when someone is desperate to draw the attention away from the main problem.
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 9:08 am
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:07 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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I don't think the LSU fan base would protect this guy as Alabama is doing.
Just how is Alabama protecting him? I thought there was a UA official who was investigating everyone in the crowd and talking about kicking them out of school. Do you mean his buddies not ratting him out? Isn't that like JJ taking a hit because he didn't want to rat out the real "kicker?"
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I also don't think a Harvey Updyke would become a beloved icon either, as he appears to be.
horseshite.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:10 am to LSU Patrick
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And to try and compare this to the behavior of huricane (and not the alcoholic variety) victims in a crisis is just about as weak as it gets, but that's a Bama fan for you.
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Maybe I should judge all citizens from LA by the crap I saw in NOLA 3 days after Katrina? Nah. That would just be hateful and stupid.
Please try to keep up.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:12 am to TotalYatMove
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Seriously, that was a pretty ignorant analogy. Stupidity comes through when someone is desperate to draw the attention away from the main problem.
Not at all. Stereotyping is stereotyping is stereotyping.
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I am almost positive they would be drowned out by posts of disgust, and the posters would most likely fade into the shadows as they are ridiculed.
So yes, there would have been LSU fans making a joke about it. That's a given. Should I extrapolate that to the whole LSU fanbase?
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:13 am to arlo
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Please try to keep up.
Your bolding of a sarcastic retort does not disprove that you drew a comparison. Did you not say that judging bama fans by the actions of several after a celebratory event is the same as judging the actions of several after a tragedy? Bringing a life and death situation to this thread at all is distasteful.
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Not at all. Stereotyping is stereotyping is stereotyping.
All you are doing is bringing up irrelevant situations. That is the definition of deflection/distraction. Not to mention the occasional "if" theories to justify the action. You are not even being very subtle about it. It's weird that you would deny it.
It seems you find it impossible to condemn the POS in the video without qualifying it with something negative about another group. It makes you seem less sincere.
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:18 am to arlo
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Maybe I should judge all citizens from LA by the crap I saw in NOLA 3 days after Katrina? Nah. That would just be hateful and stupid.
Please try to keep up.
Please keep up with what, that you post what you really think and immediatey type a sarcastic out afterwards? So, you are a jackass and a pussy then. Congrats.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:20 am to arlo
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Should I extrapolate that to the whole LSU fanbase?
You can do whatever the frick you want to do with your hypothetical situation. The fact is it didn't happen, and there is probably a reason that a bama fan is on camera sexually violating a passed out stranger, and not an LSU fan.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:22 am to TotalYatMove
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Did you not say that judging bama fans by the actions of several after a celebratory event is the same as judging the actions of several after a tragedy?
No. I said judging a group by the actions of a few would be stupid and hateful. Read into it what you will.
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