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Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:56 pm to chilge1
this will be plead down to something minor. no trial. 
those three probably suspended for 3 games and Trey LMFAO booted off the team.
those three probably suspended for 3 games and Trey LMFAO booted off the team.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:03 pm to monsterballads
Weird that you were talking about jailtime and they need to be gone stupidity last night.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:07 pm to chilge1
Yep. Bain & Jennings will probably be charged down to criminal trespass while Thomas gets criminal trespass & simple criminal damage to property.
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§63. Criminal trespass
A. No person shall enter any structure, watercraft, or movable owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.
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§56. Simple criminal damage to property
A. Simple criminal damage to property is the intentional damaging of any property of another, without the consent of the owner, and except as provided in R.S. 14:55, by any means other than fire or explosion.
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:09 pm to saintsfan22
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Weird that you were talking about jailtime and they need to be gone stupidity last night.
That's all he does is say dumb arse shite.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:12 pm to BigBrod81
Can someone give me a brief rundown on what is happening? Is it a pretty mild thing? Will Jennings be back soon?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:17 pm to BigBrod81
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And yet, the guy still never asked them to leave
The whole "not asking them to leave" thing doesnt really matter. The crime was committed when they intentionally entered his apartment without authorization.
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and allowed them to search his room even during the first incident.
Did you miss the part where they told the kid to give them back Jennings stuff and not to wait til it got out of control?
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Bain and Thomas reportedly told the individual "give us his stuff back" and "not to wait until the situation got out of control." The individual denied having any of Jennings' property and allowed Bain and Thomas to search his room for the missing items.
The kid let them search his room because they thought he had Jennings stuff. By allowing them to search his room, he proved to them that he did not have the stolen goods. And do you actually think that they wouldnt have searched his room anyways? Regardless if he "gave them permission" to search it or not. He didnt give them permission to enter his apartment but they did anyways, which was the unlawful entry charge. I mean do you think they would illegally enter his apartment, looking for Jennings stolen goods, and NOT search his room unless he "allowed them to"?
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This is far from being a slam dunk conviction for this charge for the DA's office which likely will mean a plea bargain by both sides.
I completely agree with this. I mean they are LSU football players and all that
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Jennings will be back along with the others but it won't be any time soon. It probably won't be any time before fall practice starts either. Either way it goes, Jennings will be behind Harris in terms practice reps once he does return, something at this point, he can't really afford. The job will be Harris' to lose.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:20 pm to KG5989
I'm not going back & forth with you anymore. Read my post above post.
This is irrelevant especially if none of them have any previous prior convictions, which I don't think any of them have.
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I mean they are LSU football players and all that
This is irrelevant especially if none of them have any previous prior convictions, which I don't think any of them have.
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:43 pm to KG5989
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I mean they are LSU football players and all that
This is the most concise, to the point statement of any on here.
This will be settled with non disclosure documents and everyone will come out good.
Money and lawers can fix anything. I've seen it done at my University and all others. We all live in glass houses to this type of shite.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:47 pm to BigBrod81
Which post?
I already agreed that it will most likely be reduced to a lesser charge in some sort of plea deal.
I was just saying that the whole "didnt ask them to leave" and "allowed them to search his room" doesnt really mean much.
No its not. College athletes,especially ones at a major university playing a high profiled sport tend to get off easier and receive leniency from the law(as do celebrities and pro athletes). And they get access to big time lawyers that they cant afford. OTL just did a big investigation into this: LINK
Pretty interesting stuff and worth a read.
I already agreed that it will most likely be reduced to a lesser charge in some sort of plea deal.
I was just saying that the whole "didnt ask them to leave" and "allowed them to search his room" doesnt really mean much.
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This is irrelevant
No its not. College athletes,especially ones at a major university playing a high profiled sport tend to get off easier and receive leniency from the law(as do celebrities and pro athletes). And they get access to big time lawyers that they cant afford. OTL just did a big investigation into this: LINK
Pretty interesting stuff and worth a read.
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:50 pm to saintsfan22
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Weird that you were talking about jailtime and they need to be gone stupidity last night.
it was a joke.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:53 pm to KG5989
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I was just saying that the whole "didnt ask them to leave" and "allowed them to search his room" doesnt really mean much.
It does mean much when the player's lawyer begins to discuss with the prosecution as to why his clients deserve a plea deal. Anything the lawyer can use in his favor, you better believe that he will.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:07 pm to KG5989
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I mean they are LSU football players and all that
admit it, if this wasn't a player you were against playing you'd be arguing the other way...
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:24 pm to KG5989
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No its not. College athletes,especially ones at a major university playing a high profiled sport tend to get off easier and receive leniency from the law(as do celebrities and pro athletes). And they get access to big time lawyers that they cant afford. OTL just did a big investigation into this: LINK
Pretty interesting stuff and worth a read.
I don't have to read the article because I saw it when it aired. What they didn't address in the segment was that how many of the cases they looked into were first offenses. It's makes a huge difference because first time offenders, whether they are an athlete or celebrity, will often get plea bargains for lesser charges. That's pretty normal court room protocol. It has nothing to do with being an athlete. That article kindly overlooks the fact that these are young people & the majority of them are facing any type of criminal charges for the first & maybe only time in their life.
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A "first offender" program is a way for a defendant to avoid the full effects of a criminal prosecution. It’s a type of diversion, often for those who have no previous criminal record, or at least no felony convictions. (Usually traffic tickets don’t count, but defendants with juvenile offenses may be disqualified). In a typical first-offender program, by completing the program, the defendant keeps a conviction off her record.
Eligibility for first-time-offender programs varies from state to state. Some states may limit program participation to those facing misdemeanor charges, while others may let in those looking at certain felony charges. Commonly, though, first-offender programs are available only where the charges don’t involve a violent or “serious” offense. Many states have first-offender programs for juveniles.
Example: In Jefferson County, Wisconsin, to be eligible for the District Attorney’s first-offender program, a defendant must meet several eligibility requirements. Those include no prior convictions (excepting traffic violations) and the agreement of the prosecution. Participants must sign a contract that, in part, requires them to attend classes, make restitution, and undergo appropriate treatment or counseling. The defendant may have to live up to these requirements for six months, a year, or more. If the first offender successfully completes the program, the District Attorney’s Office reduces or dismisses the charge. If he falters, the prosecution will typically resume official court proceedings. (For more, see the Jefferson County site.)
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I hadn't even addressed the fact that most DA offices practice overcharging to basically seal a conviction for a lesser charge in a plea agreement most times.
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One of the hallmarks of our criminal injustice system is overcharging by prosecutors. They routinely charge defendants with far more than they can prove because that puts maximum pressure on the person to cop a plea. That’s why more than 95% of all criminal cases end in plea bargains. Balko discussed this in a recent HuffPo article:
The power prosecutors have to charge people with crimes is often overlooked. While probable cause is the minimum standard police officers need to make an arrest and the minimum standard to convict is beyond a reasonable doubt, the question is where the power to charge should be between those two extremes.
In the 22 states that require a grand jury indictment before charging, the grand jury standard is a preponderance of the evidence, although grand juries are sometimes notorious for rubber-stamping a prosecutor’s wishes.
But without a grand jury, a prosecutor’s charging power is entirely discretionary.
Once charged, a suspect often needs to hire expensive legal representation or, if he can’t afford it (and there aren’t many people who can pay for representation on a murder charge), request a public defender. It likely means at least temporary incarceration, the posting of bond, and a stigma more damaging than an arrest, but less so than a conviction.
A judge may occasionally dismiss charges due to lack of evidence, but generally speaking, the decision to charge is the prosecutor’s. And while police officers can be sued for a wrongful arrest, prosecutors are protected by absolute immunity, meaning that as long as they’re performing a prosecutor’s duties, they can’t be sued.
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This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:52 pm to BigBrod81
So.. after most of the facts are out.. i'm pretty comfortable in saying that this will blow over fairly easily. Thank goodness.
We were lead to believe they kicked down the apartment door and threatened the room mate like they were robbing a store
We were lead to believe they kicked down the apartment door and threatened the room mate like they were robbing a store
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:55 pm to bmy
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We were lead to believe they kicked down the apartment door and threatened the room mate like they were robbing a store
That's the Rant at it's finest.........or worst, however you want to look at it.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 3:25 am to BigBrod81
It is sad is what it is. People pick sides, whether it is one player vs another, or one coach vs another, and they spew hatred and bull shite. As great as our fans can be, we are also among the worst. Never seen such a Jekyll and Hyde. Maybe that's what separates us from the rest.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 5:00 am to dgnx6
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It is sad is what it is.
I can't argue with that...It's sad is what it is and it's sad.
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People pick sides
You learn something new every day, thanks.
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As great as our fans can be, we are also among the worst.
We have some great shitty fans.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 7:25 am to J311slx
Another great post!
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