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re: Anthony Jennings, Maquedius Bain, and Dwayne Thomas Arrested and Suspended
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:49 pm to Tiger in NY
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:49 pm to Tiger in NY
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Don't think they were invited in though.
you don't say
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:51 pm to Salviati
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And like, I asked them, I asked them what they were doing here, and they said that they were going to wait, and they said they was going to wait right here. Yeah. And then I told them I would be in my room then, and so I went in my room and stayed there because I was skeptical about what they were doing.
Still in all, a good lawyer is going to have a field day with this. First he opens the door for the players. Secondly & most important, HE NEVER ASKS THEM TO LEAVE. HE WAS WILLING TO LET THEM SET ON THE COUCH AND WAIT, WHILE HE SAT IN HIS ROOM.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:51 pm to BayouBengals18
quote:Lol wut Every article and the video says that they allegedly broke down Anderson's bedroom door, not the apartment door.quote:Lol wut? Pretty much every article says they broke down Andersen's door to get Jennings' stuff back.quote:No. There are NO reports of anyone breaking into the apartment.quote:are there reports of a break in, I'm not up to date...barging in != breaking in
I understand he wanted his stuff back, but there's other ways than breaking in to someones apartment.
Nobody broke into the apartment.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:52 pm to Salviati
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Anderson's roommate ALLOWED them to search his room. Don't leave that part out. It makes you look biased.
Dude really? He allowed them to search his room because they thought he fricking had Jennings stolen items.
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While inside, Bain and Thomas confronted the individual with their arms crossed and standing close to him, while Jennings stood by the door, the report said.
Bain and Thomas reportedly told the individual "give us his stuff back" and "not to wait until the situation got out of control." The individual denied having any of Jennings' property and allowed Bain and Thomas to search his room for the missing items. The two, however, did not locate any of Jennings' items, the report said.
As the individual then left for another class, Bain, Thomas and Jennings followed him out of his apartment. According to the arrest report, Jennings told the individual that "If I don't have my s*** back at 2 p.m., it's going to be something."
The individual told authorities that he felt threatened and intimidated by Jennings' comment.
By allowing them to search his room, he proved to them that he did not have the stolen goods. And do you actually think that they wouldnt have searched his room anyways? Regardless if he "gave them permission" to search it or not. I mean he didnt give them permission to enter his apartment but they did anyways, which was the unlawful entry charge. I mean do you think they would illegally enter his apartment looking for Jennings stolen goods and NOT search his room unless he gave them permission? Not sure how that makes me look "biased". It doesnt matter if he gave them permission or not, they already committed the felony of unlawful entry of a dwelling.
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They all have LEFT the apartment. They are outside.
Cool. This has to do with that?
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Jennings tells him a deadline for Anderson to produce the other stolen items.
Really? And im the "biased" one. Anderson wasnt even there. If he would have said "tell your roommate if i dont have my stuff my 2:00, somethings gonna happen" then yea i would ne with you. But Jennings told the ROOMMATE "if I dont have my shite back by 2:00, its gonna be something", not Anderson. It says in the quote that Jennings told the individual that, nothing about Anderson. And thats on top of Bain and DT telling the kid to "give us his stuff back" and "not to wait until the situation gets out of control"... What was said to the roommate by Jennings and by Bain / DT is literally the definition of threaten.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:54 pm to Tiger in NY
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Yes, an invitation can be revoked at any time. Don't think they were invited in though.
In the video, not once did the guy say that he asked them leave. If they weren't invited, that would have been one of the first, if no the first thing, he would have said.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:56 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:Dug my heels in?
You have obviously dug your heels in and there's no way you'll concede, but you're dumb as hell if you don't believe the roommate legitimately felt threatened.
I stated several posts ago that Anderson's roommate "felt" threatened.
quote:No shite. I know how you feel. You are one of Harris's biggest admirers.
I think he should have to sit a few games and from a personal level I hope it's a wake up call for the more talented Harris to cease the moment.
However, as I have always, always, always stated, if the coaching staff wants Harris to start, I'm 100% behind that decision. Some of us are NOT biased about who starts at QB. Harris has talent. I hope he's ready when called upon. I also hope that he seizes the moment.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:01 pm to Salviati
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No shite. I know how you feel. You are one of Harris's biggest admirers.
I am an LSU fan and I have two eyes. So there's that.
You have spent HOURS trying to defend Jennings, so much so that you're saying some pretty stupid things when the fact remains that he was arrested and used poor judgement. Doesn't mean he's a bad guy but you need to stop twisting things to make them fit your narrative.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:05 pm to monsterballads
quote:You contradict yourself in your own sentence. They didn't break into Anderson's apartment. They allegedly broke into Anderson's room.
he did break into the apartment. the apartment of the anderson kid. it's his room they broke into.
quote::smh: You certainly are creative.
they forced themselves in the other entrance to the common area/space.
quote:That's creative, but words have meanings. An apartment is an apartment, and a room is a room. They have different doors.
i'm referring to his room as his apartment
quote:They didn't "force" their way in. No one ever alleged that they used any force.
they weren't exactly "let in" with permission as they forced their way in when the other room mate opened the door
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:07 pm to monsterballads
quote:You really are creative. You use words to mean other words, like "apartment" means "bedroom." And you think other people don't mean the words that they use.
watching that video, I think using the words "let them in" is disingenuous at best.
That's very creative. It's bullshite, but it's very creative.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:08 pm to Salviati
yeah you're right man. keep fighting the good fight. 
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:09 pm to Salviati
This debate over the room/apartment bullshite is laughable.
Regardless, of what distinction you want to make, they were intruding in a university residential area without the consent of the resident and/or LSU staff.
Regardless, of what distinction you want to make, they were intruding in a university residential area without the consent of the resident and/or LSU staff.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:12 pm to Salviati
I've never seen you before in my life. I go to your house. I knock on your door, and before you can even say anything, I walk in, and if you do anything about it, I kick your arse (knowing that you won't). So you go to your room. Then I proceed to bash in the the door of one of the other bedrooms, since you did nothing. I then walk out with a few expensive items, without repairing, or even compensating you for the door.
How does that look?
Pretty terrible, if you ask me. If somebody did that to me, you'd better believe I'd be walking out of my room with a gun.
How does that look?
Pretty terrible, if you ask me. If somebody did that to me, you'd better believe I'd be walking out of my room with a gun.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:12 pm to BigBrod81
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Plain & simple, the unauthorized entry charges will be hard argue for the prosecution because the witness allows them into the apartment willingly. In terms of the letter of the law, I'm not sure that charge covers breaking into a separate room once a defendant is willingly allowed inside the residence. The DA's office will most probably offer all 3 pleas for a lesser charge here if they are not dropped altogether.
People need to realize that visits were paid to that apartment twice that day. One with Jennings, Bain, and DT, the other with DT and 6 or 7 others.
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On the morning of June 12, Jennings approached an unidentified individual -- Anderson's roommate -- and asked about his stolen laptop, according to LSU police. The individual denied any knowledge and after returning from an early morning class to his apartment, the individual heard his front door open behind him, the report said.
When he looked back, he saw Jennings, Bain and Thomas coming through his front door, the report said.
The individual told police he did not know why those three men were in his West Campus apartment and he did not invite them in.
This is where Jennings, Bain, and DT unlawfully entered a place of dwelling.
Later, DT and "6 or 7 large males" returned. DT then proceeded to bash in Andersons bedroom door and took the PS4 and showboxes. This is why DT got the additional charge of misdemeanor simple burglary.
Jennings and Bain were not there the 2nd visit, when DT kicked in Andersons bedroom door and took the PS4 and shoes. They were only there the 1st time, when the kid came back from class and got into his apartment and closed him door. Then he heard his door open behind him and saw it was Jennings, Bain, and QT coming in uninvited. Thats when the charge of unauthorized entry of a dwelling occured.
Everyone likes to just focus on the 2nd visit when QT busted down Andersons bedroom door and took the PS4 and shoes. But he got a misdemeanor simple burglary charge. Unauthorized entry of a dwelling happened on the 1st visit and is a felony.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:14 pm to chilge1
This Sal guy has lost his freaking mind and it's just pitiful to watch
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:15 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:I have merely pointed out the errors made by others. Errors like "confessions," "breaking into the apartment," how many incidents occurred, when the incidents occurred, who was charged with what crime, and the "apartment" being different from the "bedroom."
You have spent HOURS trying to defend Jennings, so much so that you're saying some pretty stupid things when the fact remains that he was arrested and used poor judgement.
I have not ONE time absolved Jennings of his actions, and I specifically stated that the facts as alleged appear to make the men look like they committed a crime.
I specifically stated pages ago that I don't know how this thing will resolve.
quote:I don't have a narrative. I'm just trying to get others to straighten out THEIR narrative and examine the facts.
stop twisting things to make them fit your narrative
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:22 pm to KG5989
Kg I've been trying to explain this but people conveniently jump over it and i just watched the video, they intimidated a "nerd" or a "soft spoken kid".
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:27 pm to 5Alive
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Kg I've been trying to explain this but people conveniently jump over it and i just watched the video, they intimidated a "nerd" or a "soft spoken kid".
Trust me... I know. Im about done with this
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:27 pm to Salviati
I think the distinction between apartment and room will not really hold any water in court. I'm not a lawyer but I would be forced to believe that with the way the campus apartments are set up that each ROOM is considered a private domicile.
The reason for my thinking this is because each roommate signs a separate lease and pays separate rent on each room. That would mean that breaking into a room is in fact breaking into a residence.
Here's an example: Say someone entered a dormitory at LSU, or anywhere for that matter and was allowed in by the front desk staff. They then go to room 237 and kick that door in...they have still committed the crime of unauthorized entry of a dwelling. It just so happens that WCA does have a common area between "units" so entering that area with permission would be equivalent to entering the lobby of a dorm building. Entering a specific room via force would be the same as breaking into a dorm ROOM which is a separate unit.
It seems everyone is getting hung up on a technicality that really holds no wafer whatsoever. It also seems like everyone in this thread has their minds made up, so this post was probably pointless, just my 2cents
The reason for my thinking this is because each roommate signs a separate lease and pays separate rent on each room. That would mean that breaking into a room is in fact breaking into a residence.
Here's an example: Say someone entered a dormitory at LSU, or anywhere for that matter and was allowed in by the front desk staff. They then go to room 237 and kick that door in...they have still committed the crime of unauthorized entry of a dwelling. It just so happens that WCA does have a common area between "units" so entering that area with permission would be equivalent to entering the lobby of a dorm building. Entering a specific room via force would be the same as breaking into a dorm ROOM which is a separate unit.
It seems everyone is getting hung up on a technicality that really holds no wafer whatsoever. It also seems like everyone in this thread has their minds made up, so this post was probably pointless, just my 2cents
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:36 pm to KG5989
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Jennings and Bain were not there the 2nd visit, when DT kicked in Andersons bedroom door and took the PS4 and shoes. They were only there the 1st time, when the kid came back from class and got into his apartment and closed him door. Then he heard his door open behind him and saw it was Jennings, Bain, and QT coming in uninvited. Thats when the charge of unauthorized entry of a dwelling occured.
And yet, the guy still never asked them to leave and allowed them to search his room even during the first incident.
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While inside, Bain and Thomas confronted the individual with their arms crossed and standing close to him, while Jennings stood by the door, the report said.
Bain and Thomas reportedly told the individual "give us his stuff back" and "not to wait until the situation got out of control." The individual denied having any of Jennings' property and allowed Bain and Thomas to search his room for the missing items. The two, however, did not locate any of Jennings' items, the report said.
We can go round & round on here all night but a lawyer is going to eat these statements alive. The guy says they weren't invited yet never asks them to leave. Then he also allows them to search his room. This is far from being a slam dunk conviction for this charge for the DA's office which likely will mean a plea bargain by both sides.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:46 pm to BigBrod81
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This is far from being a slam dunk conviction for this charge for the DA's office which likely will mean a plea bargain by both sides.
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