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re: an observation on Coach O

Posted on 8/29/18 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38652 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 6:27 pm to
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Jerk!!!


You realize that it's sort of a half joke? I never said O had or hadn't learned the skill, but starting a whole thread on the idea that it took O this long to learn a core principle of leadership, then celebrating that, is odd.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 6:39 pm to
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Believe or not ...there are people who read this forum that are not members...and having a high post count does not mean you have a football IQ


2003tigerfan
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2018
65 posts

And yet, after nearly 20 years of football dominance, and this place being here most of that time...we've had an absolutely unreal amount of new members sign up in the past 6 months. And this is at a time when there are no huge reasons for fans to be flocking in here.

We have never, ever, EVER had this many new members so obviously sign up at the start of the season. and we've obviously never had such a high influx of new members who uniformly seem to have the same take.

But hey...maybe each and every brand spanking new member, who all happen to have the exact same loving viewpoint of Orgeron, is legit.

We're not talking about folks who read and never post. We're talking about brand new accounts set up that ARE posting...a lot.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79393 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 6:42 pm to
It’s crazy how all the new members are very pro O.

Also very quick to insult people’s intelegence.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 6:44 pm to
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It’s crazy how all the new members are very pro O.


I mean...am I wrong? Does anyone else, EVER, remember this many new accounts showing up, all with the exact same message?

At this point I'm half-way thinking it's Chicken fricking with everyone...
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 6:48 pm to
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I'm glad it took O apparently 40 years to gain one of the most important skills for a leader.


Better late than never bitch
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 6:56 pm to
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2003tigerfan LSU Fan Member since Aug 2018 65 posts And yet, after nearly 20 years of football dominance, and this place being here most of that time...we've had an absolutely unreal amount of new members sign up in the past 6 months. And this is at a time when there are no huge reasons for fans to be flocking in here.


No confirmation bias here

Nothing in this guy’s post history is pro-Orgeron. Makes for a great conspiracy theory though, if you believe in shite like that.
Posted by 251Tiger
Member since Aug 2018
536 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 7:08 pm to
Ed has called all his buddies,and said there are some people making my feelings bad on a message board.Will y'all please go defend me.OK
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38652 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 7:30 pm to
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Better late than never


Or better to hire a leader who has already demonstrated that trait if it is something to celebrate...
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 7:34 pm to
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It’s crazy how all the new members are very pro O.

Also very quick to insult people’s intelegence.
I've been called a retard more than once.

If only... man, what I could have done with some retard strength back in the day. Plus they always seem happy. I could live with that.

(besides, they aren't that far off)
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4577 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 7:37 pm to
So let’s see he is 15 and 6. He and LSU won 6 SEC games with a 3 home 5 road schedule. We are a field goal kicker and Guice remembering the play from being 17 and 4. Anyway tired of hearing about Orgeron as a failure and having no accomplishments
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 7:38 pm to
Oh lawd, you’re getting ready to be accused of being an Orgeron plant.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4577 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 7:43 pm to
Welp he won 6 sec games against a 3 home 5 road schedule. With a very thin/flawed roster and an average at best QB. He has reloaded the roster. Looks to me like he has figured a lot out.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 8:01 pm to
O knows talent. We gotta give him some credit for revamping the roster. It’s scheming and game day decisions that we need to see improvements
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 8:57 pm to
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without having earned it through hard work


I've committed not to call people names here but the idiotic shite people say here boggles the mind.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79393 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:29 pm to
Games aren’t won on a play.

if You are only score 10-17 points or 21 vs a sunbelt, don’t expect to win.

And you can blame Dante, and you can blame the kickers, but it’s a 60 minute game. And if you score on 3/13 drives... it’s not just the kickers fault.

Also, while neither was a great kicker, Culp was much better.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:08 am to
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without having earned it through hard work


quote:


I've committed not to call people names here but the idiotic shite people say here boggles the mind.


You know what I dislike? Quote mining. You want to address an opinion of mine, than address the actual point rather than pulling a few words out of many to try and straw man a point I wasn't making.

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I've been very honest about this. Had Orgeron taken his 6-2 SC interim and gone to some small school and built them into a winner and rebuilt his coaching brand and worked his way back to a gig like LSU, then I'd have no issues with him as a coach, and anyone that solely pointed to his Ole miss time would be a gad damned fool.

But...he didn't. He all but refused to go small and take a step back and rebuild his image as a head coach, instead opting for getting in through the back door without having earned it through hard work and proving to people he'd actually learned something from his past mistakes.


Again...honest people can and will disagree, but there can't be any honest disagreement when both sides refuse to play the game fairly.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:13 am to
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But...he didn't. He all but refused to go small and take a step back and rebuild his image as a head coach, instead opting for getting in through the back door without having earned it through hard work and proving to people he'd actually learned something from his past mistakes.


So he didn’t earn it by working as an assistant at UT, USC, and LSU but he would’ve earned it had he worked as a HC at UAB. fricking brilliant.

Tell us more about how every freshman enrolling at LSU this August and setting up a new TD account is a Ponamasky alter.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:29 am to
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So he didn’t earn it by working as an assistant at UT, USC, and LSU but he would’ve earned it had he worked as a HC at UAB. fricking brilliant.


If the goal was to rehab his image as a full time head coach, then doing so as a FULL TIME HEAD COACH at a small school would have been a better indicator of future success as a FULL TIME HEAD COACH at a larger school than his being a successful DL coach.

How is this hard to understand?

People keep attempting to suggest that his merely telling people he's changed as a head coach is worth something, when his actually having SHOWN he changed would have had real world value. As they say, talk is cheap. And as I've said numerous times, even I who have been on his arse daily, would have not have a word to say about him as a coaching candidate had he gone somewhere and actually proven that his Ole Miss days were the anomaly. What I wanted, and what we all should have (and did at one point, btw) expect out of a replacement for Les Miles was a proven winner...not a guy who was, factually, a proven loser who we'd all have to hope would learn as he went on the job.

You want fair...that's as fair a position as an honest person could want.

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Tell us more about how every freshman enrolling at LSU this August and setting up a new TD account is a Ponamasky alter.


You realize the folks I and others have called out about this have nearly universally not claimed to be freshman, right? Not to mention, why would freshman nearly universally all have the same opinion about Ed Orgeron? Finally...if the issue was incoming freshman, is this the first year freshman have enrolled at LSU or could we not look back at previous August's and see a similar influx of new posters?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:34 am to
“We will find out about his football savvy this season.”

We didn’t find anything out about his football savvy last season?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:35 am to
I don't know how hard it is for you to understand. He chose whatever coaching path he chose to take. Some work as coordinators waiting for their next chance, some work as HCs at smaller schools. There's no rule for this.

The poster you linked earlier in this thread was actually critical of Orgeron, not a supporter. I know others have said the same thing, there are plenty of idiots here. Being in a large subset here is not a good thing.
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