re: Am I the only one who finds it strange that they took JJ's DNA...

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I never said he was innocent or anything was unfair. Why you attacking me on this?

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Since the arrest has been made, well, actually, since it was looking like they had enough evidence to make the arrest (before then it was nothing but cries of innocence), there has been numerous new threads that all claim one of the following things:

1.) BRPD sucks -
1a - they put too much attention into this
1b - they are 'grand standing' ie calling public press conferences just for camera time (when they would have been insulted for not doing this
1c - they are only listening to one side of the story
1d - they :gasp: put resources behind this to help solve it, but this is bad because of all those 'unsolved' murders out there... which is remarkable because you have to be a serious mental reject to suggest that they should stop working on a current case (which is the most important time to gather evidence) and go work on a cold case that might be of a more severe crime.

I can't begin to fathom how someone could suggest that they give up a case that they have many leads on - and witnesses of a felony level and go start looking into a dead body they found in the ditch a few weeks / months ago in a very low income neighborhood in which people traditionally are known for not telling police a damn thing.
2.) The "victims" aren't victims at all! They should be called -- "they shady 4" -- ok fellas -- a. this isn't Fox News and b.) no one doubts that they are freaking scum bags who probably started the altercation but c.) it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know not to kick someone in the head while they are already incapacitated on the ground when D.) EVERYONE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE.
3.) The media is making JJ / LSU out to look terrible -- I agree, but there isn't anything we can do about this except maybe stop calling into Mascona and voicing the same bs over and over again when he brings this topic up -- ps i like Mascona but he really did sell out hard core the other day and attack the police -- which i can't fathom how hard this must be on them.
4.) Racial profiling / racism - pathetic. if one of the players really tweeted this, which he did, i hope he's running all over tiger stadium... it's one thing to really assume this over every little thing, but it's another thing to misrepresent your team by making your ignorant opinion public -- ps -- its racist to claim racial profiling every time an african american is arrested, especially when a.) a caucasion was arrested too and b.) you don't hear any whites screaming that this was a hate crime, despite all victims (or the shady 4 for our over emotional 'team sweepers') being white.

Basically, we've gone over this over and over. I think its certainly made some of us dislike others on this board on a personal level simply because the nature of this topic is an emotional one and it really tests the differences in peoples ideologies. I think its an inflamatory topic, but theres freedom of speech but i think people shouldn't have to sift through jj topics to find something about lsu football.

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asserts

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insinuates maybe, but who cares.

It is because the person who kicked the guy on the ground also spit on him. They need to match the spit to the kicker. Also, the shoes have nothing to do with the DNA test.

Don't you think maybe they asked JJ which ones he wore then confirmed them. JJ would not lie once they entered his home and took every pair.

I see EricB is still up in here showing his arse. He's acting like this is his own personal victory. Truth is the only thing the actual arrest did was end JJ's football career. It absolutely does not mean he is guilty even if it appears that way right now. The DA hasn't even reviewed the case yet and won't for a few weeks. There's no way he accepts felony charges unless there is some better evidence than what has been shown. BRPD pushed this warrant to get it off their shoulders due to the bad publicity they started getting. I expect things to get way worse for them and the accusers once Ungelsby starts to do what he do. I'm talking serious consequences for how this went down. They better be real sure they know what they're getting into.

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All they need is enough probable cause.

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Judges have no problem turning down investigators seeking a warrant if they feel there isn't enough probable cause

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Enough probable cause?

Probable cause just means a "reasonable belief" that Jefferson committed a crime.

That's it. Reasonable belief. Nothing more.

It doesn't require physical evidence. It doesn't require the cop to have personal knowledge of the facts.

I have never heard of DNA samples in a battery case. It's like fingerprinting for a littering violation. But, JJ got screwed because it was a high profile investigation. I think their first lawyer screwed this up by delaying the interrogation

You've never heard of DNA in a battery case because it didn't involve the LSU qb.

DNA is a case by case issue. I know of a case that was a bar fight involving a large group of people in a parking lot. Someone received injuries that required medical treatment. Was a case where nobody saw anything. A bloody shirt was found and sent for DNA analysis. Once locating this person they couldn't deny their involvement and ultimately led to identifying a suspect and in the end a confession.

Just an example to maybe help you understand

Spitting is heavily frowned upon in my house fwiw. Doesn't stop it from happening though

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got off on that charge...j/k).

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I see what you did there