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re: Am i the only one that liked Ensminger offense better than Canadas?

Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:19 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:19 am to
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The only reason Canada's offense did better last year was that Alabama was back on its heels guessing because they didn't know what was coming



So why fire Canada then?


You contradict yourself quite often.


Look at the above quote. That is your quote.

You inferred the other day that there was some sort of trust issue with Canada

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the main reason why Ensminger is so excited about his new jobs is that O is giving him the complete freedom to implement his own offense and to run it as he sees fit because unlike Canada, O has complete trust and confidence in Ensminger.



even though by your own admission his offense kept Alabama guessing and on their heels. So why fire him?

If he was such a bad fit or was untrustworthy, why hire him? Which is it?

I don't think you can pin that on Miles since O was the one who hired him.


This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 1:35 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:21 am to
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Oh okay, you mean like in 2011?





Yeah, let's focus on the one game he lost when he went 13-0 and got to his second national championship game. O can't do better than 9-4 with a weak SEC schedule and win the Citrus Bowl.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 1:30 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:40 am to
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O already didn't like Canada previously since before the Moo State game because he had a bad habit of always talking down to the players, but when he went to Alleva, the rest of the coaching staff also turned against Canada. As he was a cancer on the program from that point on and all of the other coaches and especially Aranda hated him.



Again, why hire him then? What's the ultimate goal of the coaching staff? To be buddy buddy and have hot dogs or win championships? Put aside the differences and do what's best for the team.


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he was riding Canada's arse because his offense was a dud.


So why hire him?

You're a really bad troll. Really bad. Get some books or build model ships or something.


It's crazy how you will not, I mean you will not say O does anything wrong. I mean literally nothing. It's nuts.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 1:42 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:42 am to
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Not correct. You heard the version of the story as told by that liar Canada to one of Canada's friends immediately following that meeting. However, subsequently, O met with Alleva again and explained his side of the conflict from his perspective and Alleva sided with O. 

O was furious at Canada since immediately following the Moo State game and he wasn't "meddling" with Canada's offense. Instead, he was riding Canada's arse because his offense was a dud. 

O already didn't like Canada previously since before the Moo State game because he had a bad habit of always talking down to the players, but when he went to Alleva, the rest of the coaching staff also turned against Canada. As he was a cancer on the program from that point on and all of the other coaches and especially Aranda hated him. 

Hence, because of that and to preserve unity within the coaching staff, O had to get rid of him.




bullshite. its been proven that youre a fricking liar and that you straight up make shite up.

Such as.....

1.O has been turning down promotions to DC during his entire career.

2. o wasnt officially hired until late January.

3. troy lost to lsu the next week because lsu beat them up and they were missing starters.


everyone of the above claims by you have been proven to be made up bullshite.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:44 am to
It's nuts. But he hasn't moved any goalposts. He's said that himself.



The guy definitely needs a hobby.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:49 am to
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It's nuts. But he hasn't moved any goalposts. He's said that himself. 



The guy definitely needs a hobby.






did you see earlier where he called posters retarded for saying," o publicly claim that lsu was going to be a playoff team". he said O never made that claim.

at this point its like fighting a blind person.his stances and opinions are so easily refutable that its not even fun.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:53 am to
It's all nonsense. The rant is crazy enough but he is one of the worst.



I get difference of opinions and all that and I keep an open mind but his posts are like a 5 year old. Even if you explain it, in detail, he says it's not true and in turn reaches into his adverb and preposition bag so he sounds smarter than he is and resorts to the name calling.




I'm not going to agree with everyone, I know everyone is not going to agree with me, that's how it is but this guy...... geez.


This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 1:56 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:58 am to
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'm not going to agree with everyone, I know everyone is not going to agree with me, that's how it is but this guy...... geez.

he is either related to O or is trolling.
no sane or objective person can feel that way about a failed head coach.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 1:59 am
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3647 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 4:07 am to
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U guys need to stop sucking Canada's balls! He is gone, I wasn't impressed with his pay calling. A lot shifts, but could not move the chains!


Canada didnt get to run his offense. Hes gone, but the failure is on O
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3647 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 4:10 am to
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Pure speculation. You're spending too much time down at the barbershop. And what the hell is an escape goat


You speculate that im speculating. Escape goat, hate goat, or scapegoat. Speak what you know. I dont come here to guess.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 5:59 am to
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clock mismanagement is widespread at every level. sports illustrated just had an article about how rampant it is in the nfl. its something no one notices unless you screw it up. miles definitely had is frick ups


Les Miles was the world record holder when it came to clock mismanagement. No one else has managed to come close to Les Miles when it comes to losing games solely on clock mismanagement and nobody else will ever break Les Miles' world record for clock mismanagement. All that hard work simply went right down the drain. Clocks were far too complicated apparatuses for Les Miles to ever get. Yet some people can't figure out why no one will touch that bumbling idiot with a ten-foot pole
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:14 am to
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youre shitting on an undefeated sec season while touting a coach that hasn't proven he can consistently finish above last place in the west. my god the balls


We definitely had the team to win it that year. However, the only reason we didn't win it was because of the head coach. Indeed, the head coach in 2011 was the biggest liability on that team, unfortunately. He was also the weakest link and we are only as strong as our weakest link, and our weakest link wasn't the players that season. Instead, it was Les Miles. As Nick Saban completely outclassed Les Miles in that national championship game, even though we had the best team and LSU hasn't beaten Alabama since.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:40 am to
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there were just outside influences that held him back(


Outside sources didn't have anything to do with it moron. As that is not what all the assistant coaches, not some but all of them that were actually there say.

As they all say O's losing record at Ole Miss was because of the players O's predecessor left him. And they were saying the same exact story since O was up for the USC job a few years before O arrived in Baton Rouge.

In fact, they said that when O was forced to leave Ole Miss that because of his recruiting, for all intents and purposes, the Ole Miss football program had already been rebuilt. Which is why Nutt came in and won for two years with O's players until they were gone, and then couldn't win with his own players subsequently and ended up being fired for it.

Indeed, those former O assistant coaches claim that had Ole Miss not fired O when they did, that they believe coach O would still be the head coach at Ole Miss to this day.

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Also, Houston Nutt took OM to the Cotton Bowl the season after O was fired,


You're right, but with the player that coach O had recruited. However, as soon as those players were gone, Houston Nutt went right back to losing as usual because he was a piss poor recruiter.

Of course, none of those former assistant coaches are anywhere near as astute and intelligent as the O haters on the Rant. As the O haters here on the Rant obviously have far more insight into what really happened at Ole Miss relative to those former O assistant coaches that were actually there. Just listen to all those morons.

Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:53 am to
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The problem in 2016 was Ensminger had to run Les Mile's old antique offense. Thus, most teams we played against knew the plays coming before we snapped the ball.

With most teams, that didn't matter, as we would still win. But when we played Alabama they made us look silly every year because they knew all the plays coming before the snap.

Everybody always blamed it on the offensive line, but that wasn't the problem. The problem really was the Les Miles antique offense. The reason we couldn't pass was again because of Les's old antiquated offense. It was just too predicable.

That's won't be the case this year, as we are finally going to have a very unpredictable offense.

We also did better against Alabama last year with Canada's motion-oriented offense, but I thought his offense was very mediocre. Nonetheless, because Alabama couldn't anticipate the plays we were running like they used to always be able to do with Les Miles old antique offense, we still nevertheless did better than we had been doing in previous years.

I'm just so glad that Les Miles is finally gone and that we aren't still running Les Miles' old antique offense. As Nick Saban knew that offense better than Les Miles' offensive coordinators did.




quote:

I’m just so glad that Les Miles is finally gone



Every single post you have ever made is just bullshite babbling filler around those 10 words. Just save everyone a lot of time and just post that from now on K?


This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 7:05 am
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:56 am to
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did you see earlier where he called posters retarded for saying," o publicly claim that lsu was going to be a playoff team". he said O never made that claim.


You loons act as if he was talking to you. Only moronic coach O haters took coach O literally. He was trying to lift up the team, so they would give their best. He was just being positive, which is what he is supposed to do as a coach and many coaches say and do the same exact thing to lift up expectations. He wasn't talking to you coach O haters. He was talking to the team.

Anyone who is calling O a liar for that is just a narrow-minded pathetic idiot.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:56 am to
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You guys have been propping up Ensminger with the "he set records" line for months. But, now you're saying the offense was old and antiquated and we could just run over the lesser teams. Even when people said that the teams they set records against stunk, you stood by Ensminger and how great he is.


Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98208 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:57 am to
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Indeed, the head coach in 2011 was the biggest liability on that team, unfortunately. He was also the weakest link and we are only as strong as our weakest link, and our weakest link wasn't the players that season. Instead, it was Les Miles.

So, if the winningest coach in LSU history and a national champion was the weakest link on an undefeated regular season team, where the hell does that put a career loser coach on the chain for this team??
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As they all say O's losing record at Ole Miss was because of the players O's predecessor left him. And they were saying the same exact story since O was up for the USC job a few years before O arrived in Baton Rouge. 

Bruh, at some point, at least one of the multiple losses that the man has acrued has to be his fault. You can't keep blaming everyone else at each stop he makes for all of these losses.
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Indeed, those former O assistant coaches claim that had Ole Miss not fired O when they did, that they believe coach O would still be the head coach at Ole Miss to this day. 

Well, if those assistant coaches say that the coaches were doing a bad job, they'd be calling themselves bad coaches! Of course they're going to be saying good things about the coaching staff.
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Yet some people can't figure out why no one will touch that bumbling idiot with a ten-foot pole

And how many offers did Orgeron have outside of dumbass Alleva? You act as if Orgeron is some hot commodity. He was just unemployed a couple years ago, as a D-line coach and now he's
all of a sudden the head coach at LSU? C'mon, even you can put together that Alleva is an idiot in that situation and not that O is qualified to be head coach. The whole "no one will touch Miles" schtick is dumb when trying to prop O again.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 7:30 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:04 am to
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Not correct. You heard the version of the story as told by that liar Canada to one of Canada's friends immediately following that meeting. However, subsequently, O met with Alleva again and explained his side of the conflict from his perspective and Alleva sided with O.

O was furious at Canada since immediately following the Moo State game and he wasn't "meddling" with Canada's offense. Instead, he was riding Canada's arse because his offense was a dud.

O already didn't like Canada previously since before the Moo State game because he had a bad habit of always talking down to the players, but when he went to Alleva, the rest of the coaching staff also turned against Canada. As he was a cancer on the program from that point on and all of the other coaches and especially Aranda hated him.

Hence, because of that and to preserve unity within the coaching staff, O had to get rid of him.



You just literally make things up and spout them off as truth so often that I honestly don’t think you know what is real anymore. It’s quite alarming


Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:13 am to
That gif.

Fitting.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 9:10 am to
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So, if the winningest coach in LSU history and a national champion was the weakest link on an undefeated regular season team, where the hell does that put a career loser coach on the chain for this team??


If people who do football for a living believed Les Miles was the reason for LSU's success, Miles would have been hired within a week of being dismissed from LSU for gross incompetence. Nobody knowledgeable believes it though. Only moonbats are dumb enough to believe that pure utter nonsense.

The harsh truth is every athletic director avoids Les Miles like he has the plague and wouldn't touch that loser with a ten-foot pole. Reducing his moonbat fanbase to claiming he doesn't want another job, even while at the same time he claims publicly ad nauseam that he wants another job and explains how he is now changed.

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Bruh, at some point, at least one of the multiple losses that the man has acrued has to be his fault. You can't keep blaming everyone else at each stop he makes for all of these losses.


Look, all I'm doing is telling you guys what his former Ole Miss assistant coaches have said about O's situation at Ole Miss since he was up for the USC job. If you have a problem with it, then take it up with them.

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Well, if those assistant coaches say that the coaches were doing a bad job, they'd be calling themselves bad coaches! Of course they're going to be saying good things about the coaching staff.


That's BS! It was almost 14 years ago. They have nothing to lose or nothing to gain by telling the truth and it is not just one of them saying one thing and another one saying a different thing. Instead, it's all of them saying the same damn thing.

Moreover, they were all actually there, while you geniuses just look at the record, ignore the excellent recruiting while he was over there, and claim that he is hopelessly incompetent, even at the same time that he is bringing the LSU football program finally into the 21st century.

Just like you guys claim a loss to a very good 12 & 2 Troy State team was a bad loss and blame that loss on O when it was really all Les Miles' fault for leaving O high and dry with not nearly enough depth in the defensive and offensive trenches, and even after Dave Aranda spelled it out in the Advocate and then Ross Dellinger documented it.

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And how many offers did Orgeron have outside of dumbass Alleva?


How many offers did your incompetent idol Les Miles get since being fired for gross incompetence you genius, even after being given a second chance?

Anyway, O was up for the USC job which is one of the most prestigious jobs in the country, and he didn't get it, but it says a lot about him just to be considered for one of the top coaching jobs in all of college football.

He was up for the LSU job, another very prestigious job and he got that one. Maybe you didn't agree with it, but who cares what a low-information genius like you thinks and believes. Certainly, not me.

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You act as if Orgeron is some hot commodity. He was just unemployed a couple years ago, as a D-line coach and now he's


Wow, the only reason he was unemployed for a year is that he took a one-year personal sabbatical from coaching. It was all voluntary. It wasn't because he couldn't get another job.

Then when he announced he was ready to get back in coaching, he received a ton of offers and was going to become the defensive coordinator for Dan Mullen when Les Miles offered and he jumped at the opportunity to coach as his dream school.

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all of a sudden the head coach at LSU? C'mon, even you can put together that Alleva is an idiot in that situation and not that O is qualified to be head coach. The whole "no one will touch Miles" schtick is dumb when trying to prop O again.


All of that is just pure utter nonsense spewed by a humongous crybaby because someone who is astronomically far smarter and far more qualified than that loon is decided to take a chance on coach O, which was then backed up by the approval of the LSU board of directors. So, in other words, he is not only indicting Alleva, but he is also indicting the LSU board of directors at the same time just because he didn't like their choice and just like a damn crybaby.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 9:32 am
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