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re: Alleva confirms investigation of possible violations

Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by Guster
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
4441 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:59 pm to
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I know it got buried, but I believe I demonstrated pretty well that Hicks cannot be the player, on the basis that he played this year.



HE DID NOT PLAY THIS YEAR.

You can go to the lsusports.net website and look at the game participation stats and you'll see that in every game he is not listed. This means he did not play a down at all.

From the murmuring of a couple of players in my class, they made it out as if it was a player already on the team, not a recruit coming in, and subsequently implied that it was not a player on another team (benton). But for all I know, they know as much as we do.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 11:29 pm to
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2. let the season finish out and part ways with McCarthy as it would have been a huge distraction prior to or during the season, not to mention difficult to find a suitable replacement at the current time. Also, if they put a stop to the violations, I see no problem with him continuing to recruit for LSU.


*Also, keep in mind ... if the violations are what we are assuming (lodging for Hicks when he was not yet qualified and on scholarship), then technically there was nothing really to "put a stop to" as the violations were already over and done with. They weren't some kind of "ongoing" violations.



An analogous scenario to your hypothesis is for a major corporation to be made aware of a financial discrepancy by an outside auditing firm. Said firm declares that the CFO was embezzling from the firm account. However, the CFO had stopped his actions 3 months prior. Because it wasn't an "ongoing" violation, they decided to let the CFO maintain his present position and continue to work for the corporation.

Not freaking likely

You're forgetting that the NCAA is a fickle beast. They hand out punishment in seemingly illogical ways. If Miles and the AD were aware of the violation, sat on it for a while, and continued to let the WR coach recruit...well, let me remind you that some of the punishment for UA over the text book issue was related to 39 cent pencils.


Now, on to this quote from your distillation of the events.

quote:

McCarthy was solely responsible for Hicks’ recruitment to LSU.


Miles is totally hands off when it comes to recruiting, huh? The head coach of the state college isn't involved in any way with the pursuit of an athlete?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 11:38 pm to
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You're forgetting that the NCAA is a fickle beast. They hand out punishment in seemingly illogical ways. If Miles and the AD were aware of the violation, sat on it for a while, and continued to let the WR coach recruit...well, let me remind you that some of the punishment for UA over the text book issue was related to 39 cent pencils.



You guys were also repeat-repeat offenders. I hope this doesn't get nasty, I think 2-3 scholarships and the dismissal of player/coach is sufficient.
Posted by NOLATIGAH
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
3684 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 11:41 pm to
well i guess this sheds some light on why miles may have been so quiet after the bama game and went through the "proper" channels
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 1:24 am to
Nice summary jplsu
Posted by atchafalaya
Bayou Chene, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1530 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 1:26 am to
I think a topic that makes lsugrandad yell in all caps is truly exciting.

So i'm here. Watching. Waiting. For news.

Where's cauble? I'll even read made-up shite.

*jk*
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 5:04 am to
Actually it's more like a middle management exec than the CFO, the head guy may or may not have known everything that is going on. Seperate note; it's not likely to be McCarthy managing time outs for next year?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53279 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 6:39 am to
The suggestion that any influential TAF operative is orchestrating some kind of chain of events designed to undermine Coach Miles is utterly outrageous, ridiculous and scandalous.

No responsible TAF member would ever do such a thing with the intent of creating another basis for discharging Coach Miles from his duties.

That is all.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 7:34 am to
quote:

people really reaching to get miles fired.


if this situation gets tied to miles in any way .. it does fall under termination for cause and he wouldn't be due his buyout ...
Posted by Newgene
Waveland, MS
Member since Nov 2005
7278 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 8:00 am to
Boy, we got some gumps in here hoping for, and trying to justify, the worst.

Typical
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10344 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 8:12 am to
did not know we had a WIDE RECEIVER COACH
...could not tell based on performance.

have not seen any diff between 2007 and 2009




Hopefully, as it seems, IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE VALID, will affect ONE coach, ONE player (hope it does not even affect the player)
and not LSU, since the player has not played any time and LSU initiated the investigation
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3443 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 8:26 am to
You can probably find out more "inside info." from the "experts" on the other SEC boards.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17300 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 8:45 am to
quote:

let me remind you that some of the punishment for UA over the text book issue was related to 39 cent pencils.


What punishment? Vacate a few wins that nobody cares about?
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
6194 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:02 am to
What bothers me about this whole situation is that it seems like Joe Boy and Leslie knew about it a while back and have been covering it up until now. I might be wrong but if that is the case and the NCAA was not informed early on, it will be worse than everybody expects. There seems to be way more to this situation than they are trying to portray.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86321 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Leslie
Have you always called him that, or did you recently switch? Do you like Jindal? If not, what do you call him?
Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
2116 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Have you always called him that


well...his name is leslie, but apparently he doesn't like the name
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Have you always called him that, or did you recently switch?


Leslie is typically used by the "hated him since day 1" crowd...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86321 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Leslie is typically used by the "hated him since day 1" crowd...
It is, but it is then adopted by the recently added.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:53 am to
if you directed that at me .. i was just stating a fact ... don't really care one way or the other ...
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:56 am to
quote:

What bothers me about this whole situation is that it seems like Joe Boy and Leslie knew about it a while back and have been covering it up until now. I might be wrong but if that is the case and the NCAA was not informed early on, it will be worse than everybody expects. There seems to be way more to this situation than they are trying to portray


if all of the details are true as advertised .. les has a hard time using the "he went rogue" card with mccarthy ... this would clearly be a case, at BEST, of miles not being in control of his program and staff ... the senior disdain for following his rules is a bit disturbing too ...
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