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re: After viewing the spring game, how much blame did Gary Crowton deserve?
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:19 pm to Mike Linebacker
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:19 pm to Mike Linebacker
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well, at least we now know you are a looser. you look at life from a looser's perspective. you just posted an article about loosing b/c that is all you know.
Man that guy isn't very tense is he, he's as loose as a goose....
Come on, are you serious? You can't even spell LOSER
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:22 pm to JJ27
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Except after Mett's TD. Then Les told him, "I want us running the ball and throwing slants."
That's true, he did say that but that was just telling him what kind of general plays he was wanting to run on offense. So it's safe to assume that Krag's was making the actual play call but just getting direction on what type of play from the head coach which the head coach should be doing.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:28 pm to doogles02
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So it's safe to assume that Krag's was making the actual play call but just getting direction on what type of play from the head coach which the head coach should be doing.
That's what we were hearing last year about Crowton. Miles would give him a block of plays from which he could choose.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:49 pm to EricB
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I'm sure your intimate knowledge of what happens at LSU is higher than mine, since you know more than the actual football players who told me this. Ofcourse, you're probably accusing me of lying. Based off the premise that what? this just doesn't seem to have any fidelity to you?
EricB, since you know so many players inside the program, why don't you address your ridiculous thread with them... I'm sure they will tell you the same thing that all of the posters with common sense on this thread have told you.
It was just a freaking spring game and the coaches aren't going to show their whole freaking offense during it. The whole spring game was a joke to the coaches and it was just a show for the fans. All of the decisions made on the depth chart were made based on the practices before this glorified practice called the "spring game".
There was even an article the day before the spring game in which Miles said he would prefer having additional practices instead of playing the spring game so that means that did not give a shite about it and it's only for the fans!
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:50 pm to JJ27
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That's what we were hearing last year about Crowton. Miles would give him a block of plays from which he could choose.
I agree with you JJ, but my point is that Krag's was calling the actual play and Miles was just giving him direction on what general type of offense he wanted ran.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:00 pm to EricB
Drawing conclusions from a spring game 
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:20 pm to doogles02
I think Krags will be very good for the QBs. I just don't think Les will let anyone run the offense though without his significant input. That's why I questioned the hire of a spread offense guy when Miles wants to pound the ball.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:22 pm to JJ27
Every head coach has input on his team. I fail to see the problem if miles wants to see some slants or wants to run more and he tells the oc. I really don't get why that angers people.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:22 pm to JJ27
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I just don't think Les will let anyone run the offense though without his significant input.
what head coach does?
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:29 pm to JJ27
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I think Krags will be very good for the QBs. I just don't think Les will let anyone run the offense though without his significant input. That's why I questioned the hire of a spread offense guy when Miles wants to pound the ball.
Yeah I agree. Some things I like about Krags though is he doesn't seem to be a puppet and just his demeanor in press conferences and interviews, he seems to be an independent thinker.
I think he will do some things that he wants to do but I also think Miles will still have a slightly larger input than an average head coach has in what is ran. Hopefully they're able to do this efficiently and are bouncing ideas off of each other instead of arguing and not getting plays in to the QB until there's 10 secs left on the play clock.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:31 pm to BeeFense5
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Every head coach has input on his team. I fail to see the problem if miles wants to see some slants or wants to run more and he tells the oc. I really don't get why that angers people
Exactly, I agree. Krags should be calling the exact play but what are we paying Miles for if he's not there to give him a general game plan of what he wants ran or even some general idea of what type plays he wants ran on the next series.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 2:22 am to doogles02
if anything this was a practice and he just wanted to see those plays ran at that point in practice. Jesus some peeps are foolish. A certain point miles said something to krags on making the call. At some point he wanted krags to call certain plays in general and others just to call what he wanted. If the head coach wants to see us run it then we are going to fricking run it, if he wants to see the qb throw slants then thats what they are going to do. Same goes for special teams and for defense.
This post was edited on 4/13/11 at 2:23 am
Posted on 4/13/11 at 5:13 am to BeeFense5
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Vanilla playbook. I'm betting that you know this. They aren't going to call a bunch of crazy new plays with the cameras rolling. They had a practice and ran some base plays.
ahhh.. the secret playbook myth
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:25 am to TDTGodfather
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The problem Gary has/had is that he does not develop his scheme for the players at his disposal nor does he develop the players for his scheme.
-he came to BR with a qb that started 1 game, another that had a RS the year before, and a transfer from harvard and scored the most points in school history.
-the second year, with a RS fresh, the same harvard transfer, and a true fresh, had some struggles but still scored 26 points a game despite J lee's 16 ints. the defense let that team down.
-the 3rd year, jj threw for over 2000 yards and 17 tds to only 7 ints, as gary worked him slowly into the offense through the first half of the year. the o line was thin and young and we didn't have the running game around him.
-last year, we pounded the ball out on the ground and once it appeared JJ was struggling, J lee started splitting time until he got hurt in the aub game. the same game that gary went to more of a zone read, which jj did very well in against aub and went on to have 4 good games out of the next 5.
i like the people that think gary just took the qbs to the varsity when it was time for individual drills. coaches get all the credit and all the blame, and don't really deserve much of either. so can we please leave him alone now?
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:06 am to EricB
Crowton should shoulder his fair share of the blame. However, a mediocre QB sure doesn't help matters. Particularly now that you have someone on the sidelines who could probably do better, even with limited knowledge of the offense.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:14 am to EricB
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Yeah. Hey! I want to be a coach. Where can I go to get that pHD in college football that Les has? Maybe there is some tech school for it? Oh, wait, what? Les has a degree in economics? Well I'm sure it was more than just contacts right? I mean seriously, Les had to have some training in some other position besides Oline (which he played). Who was his mentor that trained him for so long?
Ok, here's my point: Coaching in football is not what you know, it's who you know. Period.
From your very first post in this thread to this one. I think it's time you sit the rest of life out.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:16 am to Mike Linebacker
quote:umm, what?
He's the HC and he failed to recruit viable alternatives for two years
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:29 am to BeeFense5
quote:no shite. can we lay this to rest?
ahhh.. the secret playbook myth
quote:if miles is going to effectively run the offense, why pay a glorified QB coach $700K?
Every head coach has input on his team. I fail to see the problem if miles wants to see some slants or wants to run more and he tells the oc. I really don't get why that angers people.
and miles isnt what anyone would call an offensive guru. its ok for petrino to have absolute control over his offense b/c he knows what hes doing and has the body of work to suggest so. miles idea of offense is that pitch iso we run 40% of the time.
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