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re: Accepting Mediocrity is the first step to irrelevance
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:16 am to boxcar willie
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:16 am to boxcar willie
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so why don't you give it a chance and see if we have mediocrity under coach O
He's going on the third year of his "chance" and LSU has been mediocre, at best, under him so far.
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:07 pm to boxcar willie
quote:because the longer the program flounders, the harder it is to dig out. Got to get in front of this.
so why don't you give it a chance and see if we have mediocrity under coach O or not?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:10 pm to atltiger6487
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because the longer the program flounders, the harder it is to dig out. Got to get in front of this.
This is faulty logic. If O has 2 more 8-4 or 9-3 season with recruiting classes around 15th in the nation, he gets fired and we still have pretty good players to work with.
If the bottom falls out, we probably have a very shitty recruiting class next year which will leave a talent gap and create issues for the next guy.
Look at what happened after O was terrible at OM, they were good because although he can’t coach, he can recruit. So the Cubbard won’t be bare for the next coach even if he sticks around for another 2 or 3 years.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:58 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
If O loses 4 or more, fire him the day after the last game this year. Bring in a strong coach and still salvage a decent recruiting class. He is not even living up to his "top recruiter" status, much less hiring the best coordinators.
O is just not head coach material at this level.
I really like him on the staff, but not as the head guy.
I will say this, I think if we can him, I think A&M, Bama or another one of our competitors hires him because he can recruit. I just don't think these kids see him as a good head coach.
O is just not head coach material at this level.
I really like him on the staff, but not as the head guy.
I will say this, I think if we can him, I think A&M, Bama or another one of our competitors hires him because he can recruit. I just don't think these kids see him as a good head coach.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:15 pm to Dave England
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He's going on the third year
Third year???? I thought interm records don't count???? Make up your mind CHOCTAW..................
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:07 pm to ibleedprplngld
The real question is one of priorities. I am sorry but football is unimportant compared to academics. Period. Football is fun but not vital and if it is your preoccupation then your priorities are wrong.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:07 pm to Simplemaaan
Listen, I’m not saying I disagree with you. I’m just saying don’t hold your breath.
The fact of the matter is that we don’t call the shots on this board abd JA can’t fire his guy that quick or he’s gone with him.
Like it or not, if O goes 8-4 next year, he’ll still be the coach in 2019 and no amount of bitching on the internet will change that fact.
The fact of the matter is that we don’t call the shots on this board abd JA can’t fire his guy that quick or he’s gone with him.
Like it or not, if O goes 8-4 next year, he’ll still be the coach in 2019 and no amount of bitching on the internet will change that fact.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:08 pm to dukke v
It only counts when it helps their argument.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:26 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
We aren't winning 8 games next year. Not sure how anyone can look at Saban, Smart and Fisher in our conference and feel confident with Ed Orgeron. This isn't a time for great optimism for our football program. Fricking atm finished right behind us in recruiting and fisher was there like a month. Don't kid yourselves. Orgeron isn't the answer.
Call it whatever you want. It's reality. You're right. If we win 8 games the big jackass will be back in 2019 but we aren't gonna win 8 games. I'd bet a good bit on that
Call it whatever you want. It's reality. You're right. If we win 8 games the big jackass will be back in 2019 but we aren't gonna win 8 games. I'd bet a good bit on that
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:36 pm to Stephen1979
I love posters like you. According to you, 8-4 is over achieving. If you say that we aren’t gonna win 8, then winning 8 is above what is thought possible and means O did better than anyone thought he could.
When we win 8 or 9 games next year, shits like you won’t be allowed to complain.
When we win 8 or 9 games next year, shits like you won’t be allowed to complain.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:25 pm to ibleedprplngld
I agree with the original post 10000 percent. Lsu fans are use to mediocrity! What do you think the last 5 years of miles was ! The guy can't buy a job and Lsu wants to pay him 5 m a year! The decision makers at Lsu should be Indicted on fraud charges
Posted on 2/16/18 at 6:36 am to Bert Macklin FBI
We fired Miles to hire a guy who, if we win 8 games, we are gonna celebrate?? Kinda says it all doesn't it lol
Good news for you Bert is that Orgeron will have the opportunity to show the fans he's the guy for the job.
If we win 9 games next year, I will gladly say Orgeron did a fantastic job. Sadly there are at least 5 games where I just look at the talent comparison and coaching matchup and say not optimistic bud. I do hope I'm wrong bc again what shits like me are trying to tell shits like you is that having no confidence in Ed doesn't mean we want LSU to fail. It just means we have no confidence in Ed.
Good news for you Bert is that Orgeron will have the opportunity to show the fans he's the guy for the job.
If we win 9 games next year, I will gladly say Orgeron did a fantastic job. Sadly there are at least 5 games where I just look at the talent comparison and coaching matchup and say not optimistic bud. I do hope I'm wrong bc again what shits like me are trying to tell shits like you is that having no confidence in Ed doesn't mean we want LSU to fail. It just means we have no confidence in Ed.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:19 am to Stephen1979
You’re the one lowering expectations my man.
If you expect to only win 7 or fewer games, the that is where the EXPECTATION is.
I myself expect to win at least 9 regular season games with the schedule that we will play.
Don’t get it twisted, all of you sky is falling posters are the ones lowering the expectations.
If you expect to only win 7 or fewer games, the that is where the EXPECTATION is.
I myself expect to win at least 9 regular season games with the schedule that we will play.
Don’t get it twisted, all of you sky is falling posters are the ones lowering the expectations.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:20 am to Stephen1979
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Sadly there are at least 5 games where I just look at the talent comparison and coaching matchup and say not optimistic bud.
Please list them cuz I don’t see 5 teams that are more talented than LSU. I see 2 and then 2 that are on an equal plane talent wise.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:30 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
My expectation for the program is to win 10 games each year and compete for a conference title every 2-3 years at minimum. I think with our resources, that's reasonable.
My expectations haven't changed nor do they have shite to do with the outcomes of the games. My opinion is that Orgeron is not capable of meeting that expectation, therefore I predict he will not. That doesn't mean I'm lowering my expectations at all. Quite the opposite, I'll continue to advocate for better for LSU than a defensive line coach with a losing record and subpar recruiting classes running the show here. When I see actual results that support the propaganda that he's the guy and rah rah, then I'll believe he is. Until then, he's a mediocre to bad coach head coach who has botched the handling of several critical parts of his job on multiple occasions in his first full season. Those are the facts and have been well documented.
My expectations haven't changed nor do they have shite to do with the outcomes of the games. My opinion is that Orgeron is not capable of meeting that expectation, therefore I predict he will not. That doesn't mean I'm lowering my expectations at all. Quite the opposite, I'll continue to advocate for better for LSU than a defensive line coach with a losing record and subpar recruiting classes running the show here. When I see actual results that support the propaganda that he's the guy and rah rah, then I'll believe he is. Until then, he's a mediocre to bad coach head coach who has botched the handling of several critical parts of his job on multiple occasions in his first full season. Those are the facts and have been well documented.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:54 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Please list them cuz I don’t see 5 teams that are more talented than LSU. I see 2 and then 2 that are on an equal plane talent wise.
I said either talent and/or coaching disadvantage. Below are the games I think fit that description:
Miami- comparable talent/coaching disadvantage
Auburn- comparable talent/road game/coaching disadvantage
Georgia- talent and coaching disadvantage
Alabama - talent and coaching disadvantage
Florida- comparable talent/road game/coaching disadvantage
Gonna give benefit of doubt on aggie game and Arkansas bc we are more talented than them but with their new coaches I'd say they have the edge in head coach dept
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:21 pm to Stephen1979
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Miami- comparable talent/coaching disadvantage
Richt is all about the choke. They dont call it Richting for nothing.
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Auburn- comparable talent/road game/coaching disadvantage
Gus couldn't hold on to a 20 point lead last year. I'm not saying we win this one, I'm just saying that if Auburn wins it won't be because Gus coaches circles around O.
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Georgia- talent and coaching disadvantage
Alabama - talent and coaching disadvantage
Both of these are true. For some reason I feel like we win one of these. We always tend to beat someone we shouldn't at home, whether it was AU last year or OM in 2014.
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Florida- comparable talent/road game/coaching disadvantage
Talent is not comparable. Go look at their last 4 or 5 recruiting classes. Mac wasn't doing that well. Mullen is a good coach and has shown that he can work with under recruited guys BUT these aren't "his" guys. Again, I'm not saying we will definitely win this one, but I will say that it's one that we should win.
I really feel like we beat Miami and win either the UGA or Bama games this year and then lose to Auburn, the other of UGA and Bama, and we also drop one we shouldn't like UF, A&M, or MSU.
That's obviously just my guess and means nothing, but I definitely don't see a scenario where we drop all of the 50-50 games.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:34 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
No mfer we expect to be competing for NC's while our bum arse coach is meddling in the offense and dropping 5 start recruits who were lifelong fans.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:53 pm to Dave England
HA as if it wasn't Les who set this precedent. Maybe if Les had beaten bama since 2011 we wouldn't have O in charge.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:46 am to GoodOlBoy7
GOOD LORD NOT THIS shite AGAIN.
LET IT DIE!
LAST POST. END OF THREAD. NO MORE COMMENTS.
LET IT DIE!
LAST POST. END OF THREAD. NO MORE COMMENTS.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 9:47 am
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