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re: A Question: Why Vitello
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:24 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:24 pm to lsufball19
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How do you figure? Because he hasn’t won a national title?
There are only a few active coaches that have
Tim Corbin - not leaving Vandy
Kevin O’Sullivan - Florida
Brian O’Connor - who actually is a Paul disciple
Gary Gilmore - is in his 60s and been at Coastal for like 30 years
John Savage - UCLA
That’s it.
He's an older coach with nothing to prove and has gotten stagnant (could potentially miss the tournament). The same can't be said for guys like Corbin and O'Sullivan.
This program needs someone hungry to succeed like how skip was when he first came. That would be guys like vitello, Godwin, Brown (vandy assist coach), and Thompson (arky assist coach).
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:29 pm to tiger25
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He's an older coach
He’s like 50
, so not much older than Skip was when we hired himquote:
has gotten stagnant
He was literally in Omaha last year
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The same can't be said for guys like Corbin and O'Sullivan.
You can’t be serious. Corbin has been to Omaha 4 times. O’Sullivan underachieves with the best of them. You realize his resume this year is identical to Paul’s in 2019 right? If you want to talk about carbon copy coaches to Paul, O’Sullivan is your man
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That would be guys like vitello, Godwin, Brown (vandy assist coach), and Thompson (arky assist coach).
So you’re not sold on a guy who built an Omaha regular out of nothing but you want to go after guys who, in your words, “haven’t won a thing”
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:30 pm to PDT1960
Had an Aggie tell me today he wasn’t sold on TV either.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:31 pm to lsufball19
He built these teams as an assistant?? Please.
If that’s your belief then we should be wanting Tulanes current coach; considering he was Corbins assistant when they won CWS and was solely responsible for Dansby Swanson, Tim Lincecum, etc. matter of fact in all 4 years he was at Vandy; Vandy had at least 2 all Americans each year. Here’s another bit of his resume... As the recruiting coordinator at Vanderbilt, Jewett regularly produced some of the nation’s top classes. Twenty-five of Jewett’s recruits were drafted, including four first round picks.... Vanderbilt also led the SEC in slugging percentage (.439), on-base percentage (.407), runs scored (459), RBI (418), triples (17), walks (295) and stolen bases (139)...
that’s a pretty damn impressive resume to me; yet I have never heard his name mentioned anywhere on here. And he has also done wayy more with way less talent at Tulane. He knows how to win; and has learned under one of the best coaches in the game today. He’s proven himself wherever he has been....
so why do our fans want to throw all this money at Vitello; when there’s a guy about an hour away who is just as good?
If that’s your belief then we should be wanting Tulanes current coach; considering he was Corbins assistant when they won CWS and was solely responsible for Dansby Swanson, Tim Lincecum, etc. matter of fact in all 4 years he was at Vandy; Vandy had at least 2 all Americans each year. Here’s another bit of his resume... As the recruiting coordinator at Vanderbilt, Jewett regularly produced some of the nation’s top classes. Twenty-five of Jewett’s recruits were drafted, including four first round picks.... Vanderbilt also led the SEC in slugging percentage (.439), on-base percentage (.407), runs scored (459), RBI (418), triples (17), walks (295) and stolen bases (139)...
that’s a pretty damn impressive resume to me; yet I have never heard his name mentioned anywhere on here. And he has also done wayy more with way less talent at Tulane. He knows how to win; and has learned under one of the best coaches in the game today. He’s proven himself wherever he has been....
so why do our fans want to throw all this money at Vitello; when there’s a guy about an hour away who is just as good?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:35 pm to tiger25
quote:He’s younger than Corbin, roughly the same age as O’Sullivan, and doesn’t have a NC unlike the other two. He doesn’t have the scholarship advantages of Corbin nor the in state talent/tuition reliance or advantage of O’Sullivan, but has continually pumped out prospect filled rosters and multiple CWS appearances to boot.
He's an older coach with nothing to prove and has gotten stagnant (could potentially miss the tournament). The same can't be said for guys like Corbin and O'Sullivan.
You need to dig a little deeper.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:41 pm to MOT
This thread is filled with dumb
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:41 pm to lsufball19
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You can’t be serious. Corbin has been to Omaha 4 times. O’Sullivan underachieves with the best of them. You realize his resume this year is identical to Paul’s in 2019 right? If you want to talk about carbon copy coaches to Paul, O’Sullivan is your man
You want to compare Corbin to McDonnell? And shite on me for saying Corbin is in another league?
You're standard was getting to Omaha and O'Sullivan has been there more then anyone and has actually won a title. McDonnell has 1 stint where they've won more then 1 game while in Omaha.
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So you’re not sold on a guy who built an Omaha regular out of nothing but you want to go after guys who, in your words, “haven’t won a thing”
If the conversation is about getting the best active coach who has made it to Omaha then I'll take O’Sullivan over McDonnell.
I would rather take the coach who has built out 2 different programs with rosters that have made it to Omaha multiple times and is probably about to take Tenessee to one.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:44 pm to SaDub225
quote:Vitello has built rosters at places without the benefits of private school advantages and a deep in state pool of elite talent (which matters when you’re talking about scholarship distribution and out of state tuition).
so why do our fans want to throw all this money at Vitello; when there’s a guy about an hour away who is just as good?
Vitello is already doing it in the SEC (the conference we play in) and Jewett hasn’t separated Tulane from the CUSA pack.
What else would you like to know?
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:47 pm to MOT
He also recruited a bunch of pitchers to Mizzou that went in the first round. You may have heard of one of them, Max Scherzer.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:52 pm to ProjectP2294
This whole scenario makes my head hurt.
To me these are the only two options. One is more proven, the other one is the first guy but 10 years younger. Both have proven capable at places more similar to our setup than the guys with rings but more financial/talent advantages.
To me these are the only two options. One is more proven, the other one is the first guy but 10 years younger. Both have proven capable at places more similar to our setup than the guys with rings but more financial/talent advantages.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:01 pm to SaDub225
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He built these teams as an assistant?? Please.
Says the guy who think McDonnell hasn’t won anything yet wants to hire Vandy‘s pitching coach or Arkansas’ assistant
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:02 pm to lsufball19
Wants to hire the current Arkansas assistant that’s never been a head coach but not the former one that’s proven capable of building a program from the big chair.
ETA: for real though, if we hire Vitello, refuse to acknowledge that he was ever at Arkansas. Their fans are already creaming their pants over the thought that we would hire one of their coach’s protégés.
ETA: for real though, if we hire Vitello, refuse to acknowledge that he was ever at Arkansas. Their fans are already creaming their pants over the thought that we would hire one of their coach’s protégés.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:05 pm to SaDub225
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He knows how to win
What’s taking him so long, then?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:06 pm to ProjectP2294
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Wants to hire the current Arkansas assistant that’s never been a head coach but not the former one that’s proven capable of building a program from the big chair.
I listed him as an option after vitello and Godwin. Obviously not a top choice but would be a decent option if the search somehow is a giant cluster frick.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:09 pm to tiger25
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Godwin
So you want one of Paul’s boys? Interesting given other posts you’ve made ITT
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:12 pm to lsufball19
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So you want one of Paul’s boys? Interesting given other posts you’ve made ITT
Yes I want a young up and comer. Any other questions jackass?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:14 pm to tiger25
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Yes I want a young up and comer.
There are a lot of those. But after all that talk about hiring carbon copies of Mainieri, one of your top 2 is his protege. I just find that, well, interesting
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:16 pm to ProjectP2294
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This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:19 pm to MOT
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This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:19 pm to lsufball19
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There are a lot of those. But after all that talk about hiring carbon copies of Mainieri, one of your top 2 is his protege. I just find that, well, interesting
So out of his total of 10 years as an assistant he spends 3 years with PM makes him his protégé?
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 11:22 pm
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