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A little perspective for the Ben Simmons has the greatest stats in SEC history crowd
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:10 pm
A little perspective for the Ben Simmons greatest single season stats in SEC history crowd.
Compare the single season stats for the two LSU players listed below.
Player 1:
20.3 points per game
8.2 reb per game
4.6 assists per game
1.5 steals per game
.4 blocks per game
2.7 turnovers per game
2.5 fouls per game
Player 2:
19.2 points per game
11.8 reb per game
4.8 assists per game
2 steals per game
.8 blocks per game
3.4 turnovers per game
2.8 fouls per game
Are they that much different? Does one player's stats jump out at you and make you think they're the greatest numbers you have ever seen? You are lying if you say yes.
Of course Player 2 is Ben Simmons. Player 1, Ricky Blanton. Even though he's an all-time LSU great, do you ever hear people talking about Ricky Blanton having the greatest single season stats in SEC history? No you don't, but we have to hear about Simmons' "record breaking" season non-stop from ESPN and the other talking heads.
ESPN wanted to hype Simmons as much as possible and that's just what they did. We all know that when ESPN says something, all other sports media follow their lead. Yeah, Simmons put up great numbers this year, but just because the media says these are never before seen stats, doesn't mean they actually are. So before you rush to post his stats any time somebody says something less than positive about him, take a second and think about what we just talked about and decide if you have an actual opinion or you're going to say what ESPN has trained you to say.
Compare the single season stats for the two LSU players listed below.
Player 1:
20.3 points per game
8.2 reb per game
4.6 assists per game
1.5 steals per game
.4 blocks per game
2.7 turnovers per game
2.5 fouls per game
Player 2:
19.2 points per game
11.8 reb per game
4.8 assists per game
2 steals per game
.8 blocks per game
3.4 turnovers per game
2.8 fouls per game
Are they that much different? Does one player's stats jump out at you and make you think they're the greatest numbers you have ever seen? You are lying if you say yes.
Of course Player 2 is Ben Simmons. Player 1, Ricky Blanton. Even though he's an all-time LSU great, do you ever hear people talking about Ricky Blanton having the greatest single season stats in SEC history? No you don't, but we have to hear about Simmons' "record breaking" season non-stop from ESPN and the other talking heads.
ESPN wanted to hype Simmons as much as possible and that's just what they did. We all know that when ESPN says something, all other sports media follow their lead. Yeah, Simmons put up great numbers this year, but just because the media says these are never before seen stats, doesn't mean they actually are. So before you rush to post his stats any time somebody says something less than positive about him, take a second and think about what we just talked about and decide if you have an actual opinion or you're going to say what ESPN has trained you to say.
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:14 pm to T
I really think the shite talk about Ben Simmons is garbage.
Apparently he was supposed to drag the team along every game.
We all thought a lot of players on this team would be better, and Ben Simmons came closest to loving up to hype.
Our three starting guards made 1 more shot than Simmons on 25 more attempts.
We already knew that A&M clogs the lanes against simmons and fores jump shots, but apparently only the 6'10" PF is going to get knocked for not making jumpshots.
Lets start another Josh Gray Appreciation thread. Dud when 1-6 from from beyond the 3 point line.
Apparently he was supposed to drag the team along every game.
We all thought a lot of players on this team would be better, and Ben Simmons came closest to loving up to hype.
Our three starting guards made 1 more shot than Simmons on 25 more attempts.
We already knew that A&M clogs the lanes against simmons and fores jump shots, but apparently only the 6'10" PF is going to get knocked for not making jumpshots.
Lets start another Josh Gray Appreciation thread. Dud when 1-6 from from beyond the 3 point line.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:15 pm to T
Do you have any idea how important those 3 extra rebounds are a game? How can someone who didn't even average a double-double have an all time great season?
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:17 pm to T
How do their freshman year stats compare?
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:19 pm to urinetrouble
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How do their freshman year stats compare?
Blanton
3pts
1.8 rebs
0.8 asts
but this assclown wants to talk about "perspective"
Blanton turned 23 his SR year at LSU(stats in OP are from his SR year).
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:21 pm to T
Print the shirts, Cancel the post season,just say fuk it.
We got the best freshman stats ever posted by a player.
We got the best freshman stats ever posted by a player.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:22 pm to T
Okay. Hate ESPN. Got it.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:26 pm to Lester Earl
We're talking about Simmons' "unheard of" single season stats. That how the argument goes, right? People always bring up that he is having statistically, the best single season in sec history. Has nothing to do with being a freshman or senior. Stats are stats right?
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:26 pm to T
Simmons also had a better FG% took less shots a game.
He also didn't play next to a guy like Chris Jackson. So comparing assists seems a bit dumb. If anyone on Simmons played with scored like Chris Jackson, Simmons woudl have averaged a triple double.
He also didn't play next to a guy like Chris Jackson. So comparing assists seems a bit dumb. If anyone on Simmons played with scored like Chris Jackson, Simmons woudl have averaged a triple double.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:29 pm to T
your title starts out "a little perspective".
just adding to that. Ben Simmons is a 19yr old Freshman
Blanton was a 5th yr SR when he posted those numbers.
Even so, all the numbers dont match. But decent effort. Your point overall is muddled though. Had you thought it out better i would give you a thup
just adding to that. Ben Simmons is a 19yr old Freshman
Blanton was a 5th yr SR when he posted those numbers.
Even so, all the numbers dont match. But decent effort. Your point overall is muddled though. Had you thought it out better i would give you a thup
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:32 pm to urinetrouble
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How do their freshman year stats compare?
omg this thread Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:46 pm to T
I use my own eyes thank you and the kid is out of this world. One guy can only do so much. Imagine how many assists he would have had players been in position more often and could actually make shots consistently. Needs to stop reaching in badly and he'll be fine. Maybe tried to press late in season too much and raised his turnover line. But dudes once in a generation good.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:18 am to Lester Earl
Lester, we don't agree on much, but I could not possibly agree with you more.
There are so many different scenarios here to even compare. Teams back then were scoring 100 like it was nothing. It's a completely different game. If Simmons played with Chris Jackson, he would average 8 assists per game and probably 4-5 more points. I guess 25/12/8 would be good enough because 20/12/5 aren't
There are so many different scenarios here to even compare. Teams back then were scoring 100 like it was nothing. It's a completely different game. If Simmons played with Chris Jackson, he would average 8 assists per game and probably 4-5 more points. I guess 25/12/8 would be good enough because 20/12/5 aren't
Posted on 3/15/16 at 1:11 am to T
"There are also questions about Simmons' attitude, according to Givony. Some NBA executives felt that Simmons coasted too often during the regular season, lacking the competitive fire that could have gotten LSU into the NCAA tournament. Givony writes, "Here’s what NBA teams wonder: If Simmons cares so little about winning crucial college road games at Tennessee or Kentucky that could have delivered LSU to the NCAA tournament, how much will he consistently care about competing over a far more physically and mentally draining 82-game pro season?"
Posted on 3/15/16 at 6:02 am to LSUButt
quote:
I guess 25/12/8 would be good enough because 20/12/5 aren't
There you go again. Just throwing his stat line out there like it is an automatic argument winner. Exactly what I was talking about. Like I said before, great stats but not exactly as historic as the media would like you to think.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 6:33 am to T
Simmons put up those numbers as a Freshman. I'd like to see the stats of a veteran Ben Simmons.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:20 am to T
quote:
Ricky Blanton
He was a true team leader and player. The teams that he was on never quit in a game.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:20 am to T
quote:
A little perspective for the Ben Simmons greatest single season stats in SEC history crowd.
quote:
Player 1, Ricky Blanton.
Geez...I'm 45 and grew up loving those early to late 80's teams, most notably the 1986 Final Four team with an undersized freshman Blanton having to play center and the whole team dealing with chicken pox mid season...but holy shite what a disingenuous comparison trying to compare Blanton's senior season to Simmons' freshman one.
All you've actually done is point out how great a season Simmons had...after all, he bettered Blanton's senior year stats and Blanton is honestly a legendary player for us...and he did it as a freshman.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:22 am to urinetrouble
quote:
How do their freshman year stats compare?
While I agree doingthis his freshman year is impressive, you could use the logic of "stats last year of college" which is pretty normal.
I didn't realize how impressive Ricky's numbers were. Still not nearly as good as Simmons, but impressive nonetheless.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:32 am to TheWalrus
quote:
Do you have any idea how important those 3 extra rebounds are a game? How can someone who didn't even average a double-double have an all time great season?
By winning!
Those rebounds don't matter if its because your team shot a better %. Ricky was the hard worker blocking out the other teams bigs. We all know BS defense was not where it should have been. Also, BS was taller and expected to get a couple more.
If you don't think Blantons over all season was more of a success, then you k ow nothing about winning.
Also, the SEC was much much stronger of a conference in BB at that time.
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