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re: A case for Lindsey Scott...you know coach O watched the game.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:53 pm to prepsportsallday
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:53 pm to prepsportsallday
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was the SEC Offensive player of the year.
Which was a joke. And only because he was Bamas QB. The kid cant throw. The exact opposite of a 'dual threat' QB. Hes one-dimensional, and probably wont even be the starter next year
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:01 pm to Nix to Twillie
The dumb get dumber
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:04 pm to RobbBobb
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Which was a joke. And only because he was Bamas QB. The kid cant throw.
I cant argue this. But I will add that the passing scheme leaves a lot to be desired. Bama is not a true spread team. System is using a lot 1 and 2 receiver route combos. It makes the passing game tougher. But I do agree, the combo of the under developed spread concept and his youth is not pretty at all.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:26 pm to Nix to Twillie
So you're comparing an undersized, not heavily recruited redshirt freshman to the best college player since Cam Newton. Seems like a stretch...
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:28 pm to wildtigercat93
Lsu through the years has the has had imnumeral heros on the bench most of them were there for a reasons ,not stupid coaches !
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:49 pm to FightinTiga
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A case for Lindsey Scott...you know coach O watched the game.
Ok
He is actually right, Lindsey Scott could be our guy next year
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:10 pm to RobbBobb
Ya but hurts still led his team to an sec title and 14-1 record. Ya bama had elite defense but we weren't so bad either. I would bet anything Scott is a better passer than hurts and about the same level as a runner so why couldn't he do what hurts did?
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:13 pm to RobbBobb
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Which was a joke. And only because he was Bamas QB. The kid cant throw. The exact opposite of a 'dual threat' QB. Hes one-dimensional, and probably wont even be the starter next year
Well what does that matter? The guy generated offense. That's what they vote on, SEC offensive player of the year. Doesn't matter how you get it.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:19 pm to semjase
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Tell that to all of his friends and relatives that have been bombing this board recently hyping him out.
Who are his friends?
I want to ask them why didn't they tell him to go to Harvard.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:27 pm to airfernando
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They will start whoever they think gives them the best chance to move the ball up and down the field based on practice
Yes, we will. There is going to be a fresh start with fresh talent evaluation.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:38 pm to Nix to Twillie
the qb that beat Alabama last night was tough as nails and bama stopped his running game. however, he is an experienced qb with very good field vision and accurate on down field passes. he also knows his receivers and where to throw to them. that tight end could go up and fight for the ball. anyway, I doubt seriously doubt we have a qb that can throw for 400 yds against bama and Watson did it two years in a row.
knowing what will beat bama and actually doing it are two different things. the bama front 7 mauled Watson last night and their OL barely held their blocks long enough on most plays and certainly did not open up holes for Watson or their RB. bama is built to shut down the run and they will shut down our run game again. they have the best damn linebacking corps I've ever seen and it looks that will continue.
yes, we need a TEAM that can complete downfield passes against them. that requires the OL to give the qb time, the qb to survive and throw accurate passes and the receivers to catch the passes. that sounds easy but against bama it's hard as hell.
knowing what will beat bama and actually doing it are two different things. the bama front 7 mauled Watson last night and their OL barely held their blocks long enough on most plays and certainly did not open up holes for Watson or their RB. bama is built to shut down the run and they will shut down our run game again. they have the best damn linebacking corps I've ever seen and it looks that will continue.
yes, we need a TEAM that can complete downfield passes against them. that requires the OL to give the qb time, the qb to survive and throw accurate passes and the receivers to catch the passes. that sounds easy but against bama it's hard as hell.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:51 pm to Nix to Twillie
Why do we always have to crown the backup QB as the greatest of all time before he even takes a snap in an actual game? It's madness.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:15 pm to CWiltz
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I hear he was the best QB in practice overall last season. This is definitely a 3 man competition
Are you fricking Dense? If he was the best QB in practice he would've been starting. You don't start the season with Brandon Harris and then switch to Etling if you have a QB thats outperforming both of them in practice.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:20 pm to Nix to Twillie
I think the book is out on Etling. The guy is a competent QB, terrific pocket presence, but he's very limited in everything else. We can win games with him next year but we aren't going to be a threat for a championship with him at the helm, so it would be ideal for someone like Scott to blow up this offseason and seize that position. That being said, I don't know shite about whether he does or doesn't have that potential. Spring can't get here soon enough.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:21 pm to SofaKingTrill
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I hear he was the best QB in practice overall last season. This is definitely a 3 man competition
Are you fricking Dense? If he was the best QB in practice he would've been starting. You don't start the season with Brandon Harris and then switch to Etling if you have a QB thats outperforming both of them in practice.
I think what is meant, is that he developed over the course of the season. The decision to redshirt took place early. The HC was fired. Scott ran the scout team. I think its just a reference to his perceived skill set. I don't think that he literally out performed the other guys. He wasnt here in the spring, so it should have taken him a while to come along.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:22 pm to Goldrush25
quote:I think the issue is this: the best GROUP of players should play.
What's this whole idea about designing an offense to take advantage the strengths of your best players?
What you're describing is the antithesis of that. If Scott turns out to be the best player, he should play. If he's not, he shouldn't.
What's that mean, and how is it different?
Consider the Alabama game- we likely could have had Drew Brees in his prime at QB, and Bama would have been hanging on him as soon as he got the snap. We didn't have the O Line to allow a pro-style QB the time to make plays against them.
Given the mismatch at the line, there is a lot of positives to going with a dual-threat at QB. A few big scrambles will slow the pass rush down, and give the QB time to make a few passes. Spreading the defense and using the QB as a runner creates mismatches, as he's usually not directly accounted for in standard defenses.
This isn't to say dump Etling and all pro-style QBs, but it is something to consider.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:48 pm to Nix to Twillie
I feel like the people saying Scott won't ever play were the same people saying Etling would never see the field.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:51 pm to Nix to Twillie
quote:I think he's more like Bama #2.
If Scott does somehow (not saying he will) win the Spring competition, he'll mostly have Deshaun Watson to thank.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 12:01 am to SofaKingTrill
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You don't start the season with Brandon Harris and then switch to Etling if you have a QB thats outperforming both of them in practice.
You do if it is his freshman year and you want to red shirt him. Not to mention that the superiority didn't manifest immediately but gradually and steadily improved as the season and his comfort level progressed.
Of course, nothing is a done deal until he wins the job. He may look good against the scout squad. Let's see how he looks against the ones and the twos.
Not to mention that everyone is going off what a few coaches and players have said about him. So let's see what he can actually do next season against stiffer competition. If he can win the job against Etling, he will have to be damn good, but honestly I can't really see it. But then again maybe he'll be ready for the season after Etling is gone. We'll see. Let's not sell the kid short. Either way we should be pretty decent at quarterback next season.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:36 am to Space Cowboy
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You don't start the season with Brandon Harris and then switch to Etling if you have a QB thats outperforming both of them in practice.
quote:Well, I doubt Les and Cam would have been willing to get fired simply to protect Scott's redshirt, so I will propose that he wasn't the best QB available early in the season.
You do if it is his freshman year and you want to red shirt him.
quote:That's more believable, it's like what we heard about Jamarcus.
Not to mention that the superiority didn't manifest immediately but gradually and steadily improved as the season and his comfort level progressed.
Still, I don't know that an interim staff will hold anyone back. They're coaching for their jobs, maybe careers. And we lost 2 games where Etling wasn't effective, pretty late in the season. Close games, and the interim tag seemed to be on the line. If Scott seemed ready to play against Alabama or Florida, and looked like the best prospect, I think he would have played then.
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