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re: 4 first round draft choices. Finishing 3rd in the west.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 11:21 am to That LSU Guy
Posted on 4/29/11 at 11:21 am to That LSU Guy
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Congrats on his post going over your head.
Not really.
Saban won it in 2009 and had four players drafted in 2010 (2011 draft).
Miles had four players drafted in 2006 (2007 draft) and won it in 2007.
It's two totally non-comparable things. The 2009 Alabama Championship included the four players drafted; the 2007 LSU Championship did not.
Therefore, referencing the 2007 LSU Championship as a counterargument to Saban's success with the four players drafted last night is completely irrelevant.
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 11:46 am to dos crystal
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i'm just making the point to all those people who "critized" miles for not accomplishing this in 2006.
The 06 NC game was loss, all other things remaining the same, on the field at Fla.
Muffed punts/K/O/blocked punt/fumbles at the Gator 1 and such had a whole hell of a lot more to do with not making the CG than anything the LSU staff did or didn't do. imo
We have fans, well they claim to be fans, who will tell you that after 3 Top 5 finishes in a row including the NC, they still knew Miles was a poor hire.
When you face that kinda thought process, all you can do is shake your head and
..... 
Posted on 4/29/11 at 11:51 am to dos crystal
They actually finished 4th in the west.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 11:58 am to NawlinsTigah270
This is exactly the issue. Saban has the respect of his peers in the NFL although it not really deserved. All he has proven in the NFL was he is completely average and fricked Miami, and was a DC for bad Cleveland teams. I cant understand why people respect him. He really hasn't done shite in the pros. But He will continue to get guys drafted based on this false perception he is a NFL guy. His entire Strategy is getting guys drafted. Thats fine because theres more to It than that, like logistics, academics, comfort level, and scholly limits. There will be other talented teams to compete with them like Lsu.
And for the record, when Saban loses 3 times again next year, let's see if the degenerate fans in TTown that ran Gene Stallings out of town show up.
And for the record, when Saban loses 3 times again next year, let's see if the degenerate fans in TTown that ran Gene Stallings out of town show up.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:24 pm to tduecen
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2007 Draft Ring a bell, LSU with 4 first round picks and no national title
the entire point of the thread. sorry you missed it.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:28 pm to Doomaflochie
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"critized"
yep, doomaflochie, i don't know how to spell criticized. you believing it.......... priceless!
Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:39 pm to jdg91878
Love NS or hate him, but when you win a NC at two different schools within bout a 6 year period...not much more has to said bout the excellence you bring to the college coaching ranks.
Now, he really did piss all over Miami and if I had been that owner I might have thought bout having someone break both his legs, but he gets the players and some big time wins in college ball.
Now, he really did piss all over Miami and if I had been that owner I might have thought bout having someone break both his legs, but he gets the players and some big time wins in college ball.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:58 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Now, he really did piss all over Miami and if I had been that owner I might have thought bout having someone break both his legs, but he gets the players and some big time wins in college ball.
I respect NS ability as a college program builder and agree 100%. I don't refute his ability to get players drafted, However I still think his ability to develop NFL ready players is a bit overrated. Kareem Jackson and Carpenter should have never went in Rd 1, and he continuously gets players taken ahead of value since his arrival at Bama. For instance, if KS11 was coached by NS, I believe he would have been a 1st Rd pick.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:01 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Love NS or hate him, but when you win a NC at two different schools within bout a 6 year period...not much more has to said bout the excellence you bring to the college coaching ranks.
there is no question about this. he is why i used him as the example. he is, more likely than not, the best college coach out there. however, miles has been all but labeled as a dumbass. Not even considered as one of the top coaches.
there are people who used the 4 players drafted in the first round/finishing 3rd in the west, as evidence to support their belief that miles IS or WAS not a good coach/good hire for lsu.
yet, it happened to the best coach in the land.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:06 pm to Topwater Trout
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Any true LSU fan would be thankful for everything he did for LSU
i am
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so why hate on him?
because he tries to destroy LSUs season every year......and he's a prick
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He didn't leave LSU for Bama.
I know
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:10 pm to TigerBait1127
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we lost to 2 inferior teams IMO in 2006 by shooting ourselves in the foot.
here we go, this is what i'm talking about. we lost to an "inferior" team.
The 2006 Florida gators won the national title.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:12 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Now, he really did piss all over Miami and if I had been that owner I might have thought bout having someone break both
Huizenga's cash flow is good right now. He'll be aight. I think he had some apprehension about taking that job anyway. No point in staying if you know your heart isn't into it.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:15 pm to dos crystal
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there is no question about this. he is why i used him as the example. he is, more likely than not, the best college coach out there. however, miles has been all but labeled as a dumbass. Not even considered as one of the top coaches.
NS is obviously one of the best coaches in college. The ridicule of CLM is what can be frustrating to Lsu fans. The perception that NS is a perfect football coach is incorrect. He has flaws as does every coach, even the really good ones. Les more than holds his own against NS. 2-2 record head to head in annually very competitive games, an .800 win %, & national title while at Lsu. CLM is no Dumbass and CLM can obviously coach. Those numbers don't lie.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:18 pm to dos crystal
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The 2006 Florida gators won the national title.
They sodomized OSU
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:28 pm to Choctaw
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because he tries to destroy LSUs season every year......and he's a prick
Yep he is a prick.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 2:08 pm to Choctaw
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quote: Any true LSU fan would be thankful for everything he did for LSU
i am
quote: so why hate on him? because he tries to destroy LSUs season every year......and he's a prick
It is 2 fold. Sure, Lsu fans should appreciate Saban for the formula; keep kids home and get after it. At same time, the appreciation reciprocated would be nice. After all, Lsu did put him on the map too. To thank us, he took a job at a rival and continues to attempt to raid the state of Louisiana, destoy lsu annually, and kill the very formula he
established. While any true Lsu fan should appreciate what NS did for the school, they would also be doing Lsu a disservice if we like NS. Buck Fama!
Posted on 4/29/11 at 2:18 pm to dos crystal
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4 first round draft choices. Finishing 3rd in the west.
4th in the West...
Posted on 4/29/11 at 2:47 pm to Rocket
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Huizenga's cash flow is good right now. He'll be aight. I think he had some apprehension about taking that job anyway. No point in staying if you know your heart isn't into it.
While I can't disagree with any of that, I do find it a tad strange that someone with Nick's resume would suddenly find that he left his heart back in college ball. I mean, he had bounced between college and pro before and I would think if anyone knew what he was going into and what he was leaving behind, it would be NS.
I guess it matters not now...I'm just damn glad he and Bama ran out of TS losers last Nov.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 2:49 pm to Antonio Moss
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It's two totally non-comparable things. The 2009 Alabama Championship included the four players drafted; the 2007 LSU Championship did not.
Therefore, referencing the 2007 LSU Championship as a counterargument to Saban's success with the four players drafted last night is completely irrelevant.
So are you saying that LSU winning it all in 2007 is more impressive?
Posted on 4/29/11 at 2:59 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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While I can't disagree with any of that, I do find it a tad strange that someone with Nick's resume would suddenly find that he left his heart back in college ball. I mean, he had bounced between college and pro before and I would think if anyone knew what he was going into and what he was leaving behind, it would be NS.
I guess it matters not now...I'm just damn glad he and Bama ran out of TS losers last Nov.
I call BS on his heart being in college football. He had 2 average to below average seasons in Miami. He also picked the wrong QB in Free Agency in Culpepper. NS is no dummy. He knew he would have 1-2 more years to turn it around. Due to this QB selection decision, he understood this wasn't going to happen. He got out before he got axed by Miami.
Like him or not, the fact is he is a complete failure at the pro level, and a incredibly successful coach on the NCAA level; which is why I don't get the respect he gets from NFL teams currently either.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 3:01 pm
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