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re: 3 players drafted - Miles really left O with a loaded squad

Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:51 am to
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:51 am to
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who were all gone by 2017. Who got drafted off the 2017 or 2018 offense line who came from the 2014, 15 or 16 recruiting classes? That's why we had to start true freshman on the Oline in 2017, Miles left the cupboard bare on the offense side of the ball.


Miles did not leave the cupboard bare. This has been debunked numerous times. A number of linemen jumped ship after Alleva fired Miles and promoted his DL coach to HC.

At least ya'll aren't still trying to argue that he also left the cupboard bare on defense. We're starting to make some progress.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 11:56 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85042 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:55 am to
You do realize he was fired 4 games into the players that signed in 2016 right?
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:57 am to
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is this supposed to be impressive?


Ummm when you let your linemen leave like they did when Miles left or from not paying attention to them (Theuma), it is impressive. Zero had no control.
Look at it this way, you could remind me who the dline coordinator and recruiting coordinator... why did the Ga not sign last year? WTF are you trying to say?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85042 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:59 am to
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Fact is that Miles last few classes: 2014, 2015, and 2016, who would have been red shirt seniors, seniors, red shirt juniors, and juniors respectfully, should have been leading the way for the 2018 season, yet they were no where to be found on the offense side of the ball.


Y'all can't be serious with this ish.


All I've heard is that Ed rebuilt the roster. With what? That 2018 class? Give me a break. This guy was the effing recruiting coordinator before being head coach.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:02 pm to
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is this supposed to be impressive?


Compared to what?

What has the coach here done? What have players he signed as a HC ever done?
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10456 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:06 pm to
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- Miles really left O with a loaded squad

Miles didn't recruit our starting QB. Your post is outdated.
LSU always recruited well. Saban, Miles, CEO - Always top recruiting class.

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:08 pm to
Let me see if I get this story that some are putting forth right. Miles both underachieved with all the talent he brought to LSU and three years later miles is responsible for LSU only having three players drafted.

And the guy calling all the old field shots since September 2016 isn’t responsible for anything that isn’t good??

Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16100 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Miles did not leave the cupboard bare. This has been debunked numerous times. A number of linemen jumped ship after Alleva fired Miles and promoted his DL coach to HC.


that is a laughable myth. The OL guys that left the program went on to be busts, non factors, at the small schools they transferred to.
Teuhuma- head case and academic problems, while Okeke, Willie Allen, Hanner Shipley, and Andy Dodd, all did nothing. Did you see any of those names in any NFL drafts? The guys that left did nothing after leaving LSU. Miles left the OL cupboard bare.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85042 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:10 pm to
I can't believe the mental gymnastics people pull to still blame Les for everything.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Let me see if I get this story that some are putting forth right. Miles both underachieved with all the talent he brought to LSU and three years later miles is responsible for LSU only having three players drafted.


Yeah, really weird.

When he was fired we had so much talent that was being underutilized, but now we didn't have any talent.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47922 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:11 pm to
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? is this supposed to be impressive


As opposed to what O has brought in? Yes
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85042 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:11 pm to
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that is a laughable myth. The OL guys that left the program went on to be busts, non factors, at the small schools they transferred to.
Teuhuma- head case and academic problems, while Okeke, Willie Allen, Hanner Shipley, and Andy Dodd, all did nothing. Did you see any of those names in any NFL drafts? The guys that left did nothing after leaving LSU. Miles left the OL cupboard bare.


So did Saban, go look at his last classes.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47922 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:11 pm to
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Rick disproved his own argument with that list


Yeah if you're dumbass.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:12 pm to
How many did we have drafted last year?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47922 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:17 pm to
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who were all gone by 2017


You mean 2018.
But hey facts arent your strong suit. Defending O is.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 12:20 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16100 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:20 pm to
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three years later miles is responsible for LSU only having three players drafted.


just talking about the quality of the talent left on the offense side of the ball for the 2017 and especially the 2018 season. Of course Orgeron went out and got some transfers to plug holes and played a lot of guys from the 2017 and 18 classes, but that was out of necessity. No one is saying we don't have some experienced talent on that side of the ball for the 2019 season. Myself I am pretty pumped about the state of the offense for this coming season. We have a lot of experienced talent coming back, plus some talented freshman coming in, plus a QB and what looks to be a scheme that should make good use of those players.

I just don't see what the complaint is. Every LSU fan should be pretty pumped about the outlook for the 2019 season, and with the way recruiting has been going, the future as well. Certainly nothing is guaranteed, but as of right now, it all looks good.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47922 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Miles left the OL cupboard bare.


More NFL draft picks than Clemson has had since 2008. But hey dont let facts get in the way of you being football ignorant.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47922 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:21 pm to
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just talking about the quality of the talent left on the offense side of the ball for the 2017 


Senior NFL qb
2 NFL rbs
Chark
NFL te
2 All sec olineman

The 2017 offense was littered with future NFL players
You have no fricking clue what youre talking about.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47922 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:25 pm to
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that is a laughable myth. The OL guys that left the program went on to be busts, non factors, at the small schools they transferred to. 
Teuhuma- head case and academic problems, while Okeke, Willie Allen, Hanner Shipley, and Andy Dodd, all did nothing. Did you see any of those names in any NFL drafts? The guys that left did nothing after leaving LSU. Miles left the OL cupboard bare.


People that understand football see this as depth. The thing your ilk cry about
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292770 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:27 pm to
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More NFL draft picks than Clemson has had since 2008


That has absolutely nothing to do with 2015-2019
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