re: 3 players drafted - Miles really left O with a loaded squad

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In no way will 2018 be better than 2013 and wont have a better ypp than 2015.

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You do realize that Burrow thew for almost as many yards as Mett in 2013, right? Burrow’s first year, arriving in June, threw for nearly as much as Mett’s senior season - his second year starting and third on campus.

If that’s not enough, consider the receivers and OL differences between 2013 and 2018.

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But what makes you think O had a more stratigic role,

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Damone likes give Miles credit when the classes were good, but blame Orgeron when they weren’t. The fact is that the HC decides who to offer and why they need them. The RC formulates the plans to recruit the players that the HC wants.

The 2019 and 2020 classes make me believe that Orgeron can execute the strategic role of recruiting.

So you agree with Ricky that it’s impossible for 2019’s offense to be better than 2013?

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then the slide started. 2012 2 loss regular season. Losing by a total of 13 points to 2 top 10 teams. If that is a slide what do you call 2017 and 2018.

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Generally Rick I agree with you more than the others, but here you are confusing the terms. Slide indicates a program dropping off it’s not a matter of comparing records from different years. 8-4 in 2000 is different than say 8-4 in 2016.

I do agree 2012 was a better team than 13 or 18 even though all 10-3. As you noted 13 lost to 3 teams that finished in the top 10 by 1 score, 2 with under a minute. But just as I think Clemson can look at that Peach Bowl won as a turning point for their program. I view 2012, specifically the Alabama game as the beginning of the slide the Miles. If we’d won that Bama game we’d win the West and if we beat UGA (no given) we would have slaughtered Notre Dame (so would UGA) and won the NC and some vindication for 1/9. We clearly have not been at that level since. 2012 was the beginning of the end for Miles hence where the slide began

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There's no strawman. I was posting to Ricky, who said there was no way that 2019 could surpass 2013,

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But I never said, so asking a leading question like so you agree with Ricky is I guess better to say assumption on your part

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and you laughed off the accomplishment of a first-year starter with 3 months on campus, passing for almost as much as Mett's second season, third on campus, with the greatest duo of WRs ever to play at LSU.

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Again with the assumptions I wasn’t laughing off the accomplishment but that lack of context. Notice how you go into great detail about the time on campus but keep ignoring the number of attempts. 83 more attempts is A LOT so the yardage isn’t as close as it seems, 10 ypa vs 7 ypa. If Mett threw as March as Burrow he’d have been close to 4000 yds. That’s more an indictment on the 2013 staff that they didn’t throw more though 2013 also had much better running backs

Lmfao wow

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F Burrow had OBj and Landry im sure his avg per attempt would be much higher See? This is easy.

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I was just responding to the guy that said Burrow had almost as many yards as Mett, he did but with way more attempts, context matters.

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Well shite, thats convenient.

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Also convenient that you left off the part of my post saying having fewer attempts was an indictment of the previous staff.

This constant tit for tat trying to one up some other posters tiresome

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was just responding to the guy that said Burrow had almost as many yards as Mett, he did but with way more attempts, context matters.

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Sure it does, but comparing across years is futile. I think this season compares more favorably to 2013 in the way it's set up though if we are going to make comparisons. .I would expect better passing numbers across the board.

I felt Burrow was a much better QB at years end

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Sure it does, but comparing across years is

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I don’t think you understand what context is

One guy said 18 Burrow had almost as as many yards passing as Mett in 2013, like I said I knew he had 1 more game since ZM missed the bowl but the att stood out, as they should since 83 more passes is a lot.

What’s futile is bickering about whether an upcoming offense will be better than a past offense, make that comp after the season. But using something like total yards without factoring in the # of games or something drastic like 83 more passes thrown to make a case is misleading.

I would guess Rick is defending the 13 O because some unfairly dump on it since overall Miles O was poor.

I really don’t care what season has more passing yards as long as the team does well. Like I said I’m optimistic about this offense and I think anything less than 10-2 should be viewed as an underachievement