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re: 3 BRPD officers on leave following Koy Moore incident
Posted on 11/10/20 at 6:41 am to AnthonyWC70788
Posted on 11/10/20 at 6:41 am to AnthonyWC70788
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I think people ae blowing this way out of proportion.
While you may think this is blown way out of proportion, that is the exact deal that happened to George Floyd. A situation that was blown way out of proportion turned deadly.
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Put yourselves in their shoes. Both parties. Police looking for someone matching his description. Police approach him. Moore knows he didnt do anything wrong and cant understand why they are dealing with him. Police think he might be armed because that is what they were looking at. They draw their guns. No one wants to get shot including the police. SO they are ready. They check him out. Moore thinks he is being targeted. While speaking to him they find out he is an LSU football player. They release him because they cant find anything and tell him what was going on. Does Moore feel violated. Sure. But also has to understand they have a job to do.
If the officers did their jobs correctly and turned on their body cams AT THE MOMENT they arrived on the scene, then they should have nothing to worry about if they followed proper protocol. In your own words, "This is not rocket science".
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EVERYONE of you all need to stop with the bias medias left or right and think about the situations and not what they are telling you to believe.
I'm all for letting the situation play out, but to sit here and think or believe that every officer follows proper protocol would be foolish. Again, body cam footage should either justify the actions of the officers or not. It's very simple.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 6:58 am to TeamLSU
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I'm all for letting the situation play out, but to sit here and think or believe that every officer follows proper protocol would be foolish. Again, body cam footage should either justify the actions of the officers or not. It's very simple.
You say this so casually as if it’s always perfectly clear. There is extreme subtlety in dealing with the public at some of the most emotionally charged moments in their life. There are always as many perspectives as their are observers and they always differ in various ways.
The fact of the matter is that there are often situations where there is no “violation of protocol” and yet, officers could have handled the situation better. There are also situations where an innocent person’s actions, although not illegal and even understandable, increase the likelihood of some tragic outcome.
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While you may think this is blown way out of proportion, that is the exact deal that happened to George Floyd. A situation that was blown way out of proportion turned deadly.
The Floyd case is a prime example. It now appears that Floyd killed himself by taking an excessive amount of Fentanyl, and no actions by the police could have saved him. Nevertheless, at a minimum, the videos appear to show a callous disregard for his well-being when he was in obvious distress. It’s also possible that they “followed protocol”, if reports are true that the “knee to the neck” restraint was actually how they were trained to deal with people experiencing drug induced excited delirium.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:00 am to bigpetedatiga
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:30 am to Jimbeaux
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You say this so casually as if it’s always perfectly clear.
Nothing is as perfectly clear when you draw your weapon on a subject. What may be perfectly clear to one officer may not be as perfectly clear to another. What is perfectly clear is when you arrive on a scene, you IMMEDIATELY turn on that body cam. That is what I am referring to when I say following proper protocol.
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The fact of the matter is that there are often situations where there is no “violation of protocol” and yet, officers could have handled the situation better.
I clearly stated in my previous post that I'm all for letting the situation play out.
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Nevertheless, at a minimum, the videos appear to show a callous disregard for his well-being when he was in obvious distress.
So the officers didn't follow Proper Protocol. And what police department's protocol is when you have a person handcuffed behind his back, laying face down on the ground, no threat to himself, the officers or the public, yet the officer feels the need to put a knee on the neck of someone that is in custody. If they justify that type of behavior from the police then that department needs a change. The need to the neck was UNNECCESARRY AND EXCESSIVE.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:35 am to TeamLSU
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While you may think this is blown way out of proportion, that is the exact deal that happened to George Floyd. A situation that was blown way out of proportion turned deadly.
Should be "dont do drugs and try to use counterfeit money.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:38 am to TeamLSU
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Police officers should be trained and are held to a higher standard.
How much do you think an employee of this caliber and training should get paid? I’ll bet it’s way more than BRPD is paying.
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If an officer cannot control his emotion in high stress situations then he's in the wrong line of business.
You ever lose your temper with your kids? Spouse? At work?
Maybe you shouldn’t be a parent, spouse, or employee.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:44 am to tigerinthebueche
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How much do you think an employee of this caliber and training should get paid? I’ll bet it’s way more than BRPD is paying.
Doesn't matter because they CHOSE to be in that profession. They weren't DRAFTED to be a police officer. If they don't like the pay, they can freely walk away and find another profession. Very simple.
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You ever lose your temper with your kids? Spouse? At work?
You see the fundamental difference is, if i'm mad or upset at my kids, spouse or work, NOBODY loses their lives.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:47 am to kengel2
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Should be "dont do drugs and try to use counterfeit money.
Well it still doesn't justify a DEATH SENTENCE. Because if that's the case, we wouldn't have enough prison space for those that commit that sort of crime. At the end of the day, the officer was an a-hole.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:54 am to TeamLSU
I fail to see what any of that case has to do with Koy Moore.
Your arguments are grasping.
Your arguments are grasping.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:56 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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From another article.
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BRPD legal division says it will take at least 30 days to release any possible video of incident involving Koy Moore
That seems like an absurd amount of time
it also sounds like the exact same amount of time that a governing body is mandated to produce material under the freedom of information act
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:59 am to BayouCatFan
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Combine that with the rumor they were searching for someone who fit Moore's description who also had a gun
So what if Koy had a gun? He's not a felon.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:12 am to red sox fan 13
They are only suspended because the puppet chief works for a racist mayor.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:16 am to Bestbank Tiger
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So what if Koy had a gun? He's not a felon.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:16 am to kengel2
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fail to see what any of that case has to do with Koy Moore.
Your arguments are grasping.
It's not my problem that you cannot follow the chronological order in which i'm responding to various posters.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:21 am to AnthonyWC70788
Spot on.
Great post.
Great post.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:24 am to GoneFishing21
Because no matter what he was doing if he was accused of having a weapon and treated as though he had a weapon without anyone having seen or reported he had a weapon, then the cop is wrong. Commission of a crime does not automatically warrant having weapons drawn on you. Now the only question is why did the police think he had a weapon. That's up to each individual to conclude for themselves because we'll never know.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:31 am to Icansee4miles
I would not want to be the next LSU football player that gets pulled over drunk or slapping his girlfriend around.
They have gotten special treatment for decades.
They have gotten special treatment for decades.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:33 am to TeamLSU
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It's not my problem that you cannot follow the chronological order in which i'm responding to various posters.
The only problem is you arr trying to link two events that are nothing alike.
Floyd was committing a crime and resisted and OD'd.
Moore just matched the description. He didnt actually do anything. He ws detained and let go.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:37 am to 5iveEuax4eaux
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Because no matter what he was doing if he was accused of having a weapon and treated as though he had a weapon without anyone having seen or reported he had a weapon, then the cop is wrong.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:45 am to kengel2
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The only problem is you arr trying to link two events that are nothing alike.
Floyd was committing a crime and resisted and OD'd.
Moore just matched the description. He didnt actually do anything. He ws detained and let go.
I don't know the details of the case but if he matched the description and was in the area of a search for a bad dude it isn't racial profiling.
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