re: 247: Brian Kelly, players address overlooked component to LSU football's summer

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Moffitt definitely didn’t change with the times

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Moffitt was using this same GPS/data tracking system for 8+ years during summer workouts. Not his fault that Orgeron couldn't understand how to use/relate the data to practices & game preparation.

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Not his fault that Orgeron couldn't understand how to use/relate the data to practices & game preparation.

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Do you know this as fact? Isn't it Moffit's job to utilize the data to properly and effectively get the athletes in prime condition for the upcoming season? Not wanting to turn this into a bashing thread, but if Moffit was truly at the behest of Orgeron, how was he not able to translate that in his interview with the new head coach? Something in his program did not fit the direction the new coach wanted to head in, and was honorably let go.

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I clearly outlined what was going on but you choose to try and fit it to your narrative. Rather than veil your comments so cryptically, tell us how butt hurt you are that LSU moved on from Moffit and how LSU would have benefitted by doing the same old thing?

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You are trying to create a narrative from me that wasn't typed. Don't be so defensive. I asked honest questions about our data points and how we're going to be better for it against other SEC and top tiered programs... but what is this data that makes it better than what Bama is doing? Better than what auburn is doing? Better than other programs? This isn't anything to do with if its better than what LSU has done in the past.

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Something in his program did not fit the direction the new coach wanted to head in, and was honorably let go.

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Not necessarily. I think it was simply that Brian Kelly wanted to run his own program, not Moffitt's program, which I can respect.

Can't believe some posters still toss up the old "we looked tired late in games" excuse when talking about Moffitt's program. Too anyone with a brain, that is a practice issue.

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The fact that this wasn't being done years ago. Just SMH

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it was, thats whats funny. we have been monitoring and wearing vest and using velocity based training to track these things. You can find all of the articles in 2019 talking about it and pictures of the vest, how we were monitoring oxygen consumption, resting heart rate and sleep to get an idea of recovery etc etc

just because the last 2 years O slipped back into being the neanderthal from ole miss doesnt mean we didnt track those things.

so laughable how everyone thinks tommy moffit was years behind. At one point he was a little slow to change and to use a conjugated approach using velocity based olympic movements, velocity based power movements, strongman etc but that was a decade ago.

just because we didnt use the data doesnt mean tommy and jack werent collecting it. They talked about it in plenty of articles.

if you want to blame Tommy for being old school in anything it would be his approach to conditioning. Not that he didnt understand or know energy systems etc...its just that he beleived things like the 120s conditioning test built mental toughness and things of that nature. He was and is wrong imo but that was pretty much only thing he was old school on.

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There is one idiot on this board that wouldn't blame moffitt.

It is clear he was falling behind the times. Very, very clear.

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you called me one of those idiots before and Ill tell you same thing i told you then, i forgot more about S&C last week then you will ever know and tommy forgot more last night while sleeping then i will ever know.

you dont know wtf you are talking about when it comes to things tommy and jack tracked and presented to O and Les. you have no fricking clue and when O first came in he actually listened, somethign that they hadnt seen since Nick was hear. Slowly he stopped listening too.

i also think it is hilarious that people think tommy didnt care about nutrition. But it doesnt matter how much you care or present the players with their macros and how to track it if there are no consequences to not doing it.

I thank Moffitt for his time here he was great but the game passed him by are teams were definitely not in great shape the last couple years you would have a few yoked guys but oline men that looked like fat and sloppy

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but the game passed him by

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such a stupid take. Of course, I don't expect better from many of the mouth breathers on here. Kelly wanted a complete break from the prior program. Trying to read anything else into it is just dumb.

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I've always heard at some point Moffitt backed away from the day to day workout stuff and let his assistants take that over.

If true, it might point to reasons the team needed to move on from Moffitt.

We all know the strength and conditioning staff play a huge role in developing team culture. They spend the most time with the players and have a huge effect on the team. If Moffitt really was deferring to his staff members and not being with the team as much that might have been a big issue that needed change.

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that was true for other sports but not football.

we needed a break from Moffitt but it was because as usual when you have been one place that long, the message became stale. much of it because of O.

all these people talking about the game passed him by and other bullshite are talking out their arse, period.

so he was great in 2019, but 2 years later he suddenly was an idiot? im sure it was him that started not holding peopel accountable, im positive it had to be his idea.