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re: 2022 Passing stats: Jayden Daniels vs Stetson Bennett
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:02 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:02 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Jayden is not a bad passing QB
He actually is. He's pretty bad.
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I believe he will after a full year with this coaching staff and an improved O-line.
He's a 5th year starter. The light bulb isn't suddenly coming on for this guy. Sorry, but it isn't, and if you are expecting a lot of improvement from him next season, you're going to be very disappointed.
For whatever reason, the guy doesn't seem to be willing to trust his receivers. On multiple occasions this season, he had all the time in the world to throw, but wouldn't, eventually scrambling or getting sacked. I don't see that changing.
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:07 am to LouisianaLonghorn
I can give you examples of guys who click their 5th year of collegeZ I can Even show you guys who click 5 years into college, 4 years at a school 3 years with a coordinator who click their fifth year of college.
Who are the QBs that start out throwing a ton of picks who turn really really good.
Who are the QBs that start out throwing a ton of picks who turn really really good.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:47 am to dmatt2021
As of now, DCs know that JD5 is no passing threat. They will plan accordingly. I think he will have a worse year in 23.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:04 am to Oilfieldbiology
An honest assessment of JD5's stats shows that he is not a QB.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:23 am to cyarrr
Do you realize this is compiled by a journalist such as a Scott Rabalais type “expert” right ? There is no way Daniels returned if he had a 2-3 round draft grade from the actual NFL , not a website . But hey believe what you want . I’m sure you also think he is a competent passer.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:28 am to Mickey Goldmill
The number one problem that JD has that is a real drive killer is taking sacks. He took 43 sacks. No reason for a guy that mobile to be sacked that often.
He has to let it go faster or scramble quicker. He simply cant get us behind the chains.
He has to let it go faster or scramble quicker. He simply cant get us behind the chains.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:32 am to tigerfoot
That is true , the number one way qb’s avoid sacks is by recognition of the blitz and knowing where to go with the ball quickly ,which requires a higher level of understanding. He has yet to show he possesses this . Another post brought up the fact that he has yet to be spotted checking out of a play to avoid trouble . Who knows maybe things will click once he gets about 45 starts under his belt .
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:36 am to White Tiger
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An honest assessment of JD5's stats shows that he is not a QB.
That’s not true
It shows he’s a very Inconsistent QB.
But a honest man would look at his stats and see a lot of very good games mixed with a good amount of bad games.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:54 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I don’t want deep. I want 8-15 yard air throws in the middle of the field.
Roughly 30% of his completions were over 15yds. That's as far as I dug into pass distance.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:48 am to SammyTiger
I’m not saying that Daniels can’t improve, but expecting him to develop into an elite passer is ridiculous.
Nuss hasn’t thrown “a ton” of ints because he hasn’t gotten a lot of playing time. Yess he did throw a pick in the bowl game, but it was so great to see the offense moving the ball efficiently and stretching the field.
Daniels has thrown a ton of incompletions and taken a ton of sacks. He’s not good at reading defenses either.
Nuss hasn’t thrown “a ton” of ints because he hasn’t gotten a lot of playing time. Yess he did throw a pick in the bowl game, but it was so great to see the offense moving the ball efficiently and stretching the field.
Daniels has thrown a ton of incompletions and taken a ton of sacks. He’s not good at reading defenses either.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:49 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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Nuss hasn’t thrown “a ton” of ints because he hasn’t gotten a lot of playing time.
He threw 5 picks in 84 passes.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:32 pm to Ralphiemay
Exactly. But he didn’t. I wonder why not…
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:43 pm to Damone
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Damone
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Jayden has been in the system at LSU for MONTHS.
Jayden had 3 years out West, he has great feet and actually his feet enable him to run which kinda sets up his limited passing ability. He is just not a prototype pocket passer, more of a scrambling QB, nothing wrong about this is college but winning championships does require moving the ball down the field with ability to pass 15 to 30 yards past the line of scrimmage
Daniels was good for LSU this season, has 4 college seasons of starting experience and still cannot move the ball through the air down the field.
When you have a QB with a weakness then good coaches can scheme against that.
LSU will win games next year with Jayden and most likely repeat a 10 win season, good for LSU.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:49 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Mikey Goldmin, I’ll still take Stetson 100 out of 100 times so not sure what these stats mean to you?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:55 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Problem w/ JD is he's had some really bad games
and then he's had some really good games
its the consistency part that is the problem
also helps that the SEC in whole was a shite bucket last season.
think next year will be much tougher
and then he's had some really good games
its the consistency part that is the problem
also helps that the SEC in whole was a shite bucket last season.
think next year will be much tougher
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:08 pm to Oilfieldbiology
He does not throw because he cannot decipher the defense. Who knows, maybe he does not understand the passing concepts either.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:11 pm to Damone
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Wonder which one will be drafted higher
NFL moral victory?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:19 pm to Bedtiger
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Mikey Goldmin, I’ll still take Stetson 100 out of 100 times so not sure what these stats mean to you?
I posted these stats to show Jayden's accuracy throwing the ball down the field is not far off from Stetson Bennett's. It's smaller sample size and nobody disagrees that he needs to attempt more downfield passes, but people saying he's a terrible passer or 'not a QB' are ignoring facts.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:22 pm to LSUStar
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He does not throw because he cannot decipher the defense. Who knows, maybe he does not understand the passing concepts either.
That's your assumption. Personally, I think the same thing happened to him that happened to Jarrett Lee. Threw a lot of picks and it messed with him. He's overly cautious with the football now. Being more comfortable with the coaching staff, gameplan, and his teammates leads to more trust which leads to more chances taken.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:43 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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He's a 5th year starter. The light bulb isn't suddenly coming on for this guy. Sorry, but it isn't, and if you are expecting a lot of improvement from him next season, you're going to be very disappointed.
For whatever reason, the guy doesn't seem to be willing to trust his receivers. On multiple occasions this season, he had all the time in the world to throw, but wouldn't, eventually scrambling or getting sacked. I don't see that changing.
Exactly right. He just does not get it.
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