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re: 2012 Defense; I guess I need the Kool Aid

Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:43 am to
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:43 am to
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Because he was injured and got behind a lot of NFL talent. He'll explode this year.


still a bit of a question mark in coverage, but I like the fact that he's said he has to just focus on getting the ball carrier on the ground and not laying a vicious hit. He realizes he has to stay healthy
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:50 am to
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LSU GrandDad
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I am concerned about the inexperience in the LB corp


Kevin Minter was a starter last year. Lamin Barrow & Minter himself have been playing significant minutes and snaps since the 2010 season. I distinctly remember Barrow playing a large role against UNC which was the opener in 2010, which was about a month away from THREE seasons ago.

So I don't know where you're coming up with the BS about a lack of experience amongst our LBers from.

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and the DB's.


Two returning 1st-team All-Americans & a 1st-team All-SEC Cornerback, but you're concerned about the DB's?

You're an idiot.
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:53 am to
Anyone that questions our defense being better this year than last is probably doing so for the obvious reason, which is how can one of the best defenses they've ever seen actually get better?

It's a legit question.

IF this defense is better, I'm going to say it'll ultimately be attributable to end play. IMHO, having awesome DE's is better than having awesome DT's, as awesome ends wind up being/shoring up linebacking. Additionally, are DE's run so well that backs out of the backfield/shorter pass routes can actually be snuffed out/challenged by uising them on occasion. Only works if they can run like deer though, which ours can.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32066 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:55 am to
Idk, maybe so. I'm just not sold on loston. He has trouble with the plays and coop wasn't that high on him either. I hope he can contribute though.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:56 am to
Mingo and Montgomery are the best DE combo in the country and the secondary also has the potential to be as great as last year, maybe even better because Reid is capable of All American honors and Simon All SEC honors, nothing needs to be said for Honey Badger, but Loston is the x factor!

your concerns for LB are understandable, but Minter is solid and they have 3 young studs with speed to burn so I'm feeling OK about them!
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:57 am to
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TigerTreyjpg
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Anyone that questions our defense being better this year than last is probably doing so for the obvious reason, which is how can one of the best defenses they've ever seen actually get better?

It's a legit question.

IF this defense is better, I'm going to say it'll ultimately be attributable to end play. IMHO, having awesome DE's is better than having awesome DT's, as awesome ends wind up being/shoring up linebacking. Additionally, are DE's run so well that backs out of the backfield/shorter pass routes can actually be snuffed out/challenged by uising them on occasion. Only works if they can run like deer though, which ours can.


I kinda agree. We have more horses at Defensive End than we did last year. Ken Adams was steady but unspectacular. This year-and don't be surprised-if Rasco goes hog-arse-wild on the opposite side of Sonic Sam, & Mingo gets some extra looks as well.

But our Secondary's going to be fantastic. Simon's going to do just fine on his side of the field and we'll be fine in the slot where most teams traditionally put weaker players. Our slot corner is a Heisman Finalist. On the other side we'll have a greenhorn but we'll have Poppa Reid over the top flying all over, with Loston ready to decapitate as well.

Don't sleep on Ronnie Martin either, fellas.
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 12:01 pm to
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10-2 would not surprise me.


Posted by tc5140
Member since Jul 2009
782 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 1:36 pm to
I would have way more concerns if I were on arky, a&m and possibly bama and usce side of the field playing LSU.

Let's settle down. The Chief is too hyped up about this secondary for us to be concerned about these things.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44134 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 1:39 pm to
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I know just about everyone on here thinks our defense this year will be better than last years. I am concerned about the inexperience in the LB corp and the DB's. Our dime package will have to contain some raw and inexperienced guys. I like that our schedule allows us to get some experience before the SEC wars but my opinion is that we are going to have to score a lot to overcome our weaknesses. 10-2 would not surprise me. I hope i'm wrong but whatever it is we will have a very good and exciting team. Let the games begin.


All I need to hear is how much Chavis likes this D......enough for me
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71471 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 1:42 pm to
Without reading the entire thread I'll just say this.

I think the D from last year did exceptional considering how much they had to be on the friggin field.

This year our offense will, hopefully, be on the field much more.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 1:51 pm to
33:04 / 26:56
30:53 / 29:07
37:50 / 22:10
33:22 / 26:38
31:13 / 28:47
35:40 / 24:20
38:19 / 21:41
30:35 / 29:25
29:54 / 30:06
24:05 / 35:55
30:47 / 29:13
37:09 / 22:51
23:24 / 36:36
24:34 / 35:26

Those are the TOP breakdowns from last season. We were ahead in every single game until Bama and the difference was 12 seconds. Only other games were WKU, UGA and BAMA(2)...which we lost the ladder.

If we improve upon those numbers by much we are going to win every game by 40 points.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71471 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 2:09 pm to
I would hope for some of those gimme games, it'd be a lot more lopsided.

It's hard to judge because you have 3 and outs mixed in with quick scores.

I just think we'll manage the ball a lot better against the better SEC teams, not depend on forced turnovers and ST.

Our D had to tote the load last season.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35470 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 2:15 pm to
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distinctly remember Barrow playing a large role against UNC which was the opener in 2010


I remember 2 personal foul calls in that game and him rarely seeing the field since then.
Posted by Tigerbait8
Biloxi
Member since Aug 2012
2179 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 3:28 pm to
i kinda want to see how lamin barrow is... i never have seen him play in any games..
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10283 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 3:42 pm to
The only thing I am worried about is the tigers staying healthy. If they do BCSNC.


And I don't need any stinking cool aid.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32066 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 3:44 pm to
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I remember 2 personal foul calls in that game and him rarely seeing the field since then.


so true
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 3:45 pm to
I always get more "worried" as the season gets closer and Im a old man


I am learning to have faith in the coaches and everything should work itself out
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12845 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 4:38 pm to
I agree w / P&G.
One way to help the defense is for the offense to keep the ball and score. We sure had lots of three and outs last year...
We went 13-1 with a running team and still was only 21st in TOP.
With an SEC quality QB we can increase TOP and help the defense more than last yr.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 6:36 pm to
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If Texas A&M puts up 24 points on this defense I will streak the Alabama game....... seriously.


Pleeease , NO
on both counts
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 6:38 pm to
Do you still have a hard-on for Greg Hudson?
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