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re: 104.5 Charles Hannigriff had the best critique of Bama's ratings
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:35 pm to Celjun
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:35 pm to Celjun
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. By being #4 already with1 loss there is a good chance they can make the playoffs even with a 2nd loss to LSU. Don't u see this sets them up to make it to the play offs as a 2 loss team.
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:36 pm to FulshearTiger
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So if every game matters do you ever factor in losing a game to a team that lost 7 other games in 2011?
You would factor that in as a tiebreaker, but IMO, the conference championship trumps finishing 2nd in your division...from a "deserving" standpoint. Not to mention the fact that LSU had already beaten Bama. I realize that NCAA football is a very odd beast when it comes to deciding a champion, therefore my rationalization is always to look at game results, not subjective beauty contests.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:39 pm to FulshearTiger
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Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State.
On a short week (Friday game), on the road, in double overtime, during the week (the day?) when multiple people in their athletic department died in a plane crash...
Whereas, Alabama lost on a regular week after a bye, at home, in single overtime. But but but...eye test...quality loss.
Oklahoma State WON their conference. And if I recall correctly, Okie State played more teams that were ranked than did Alabama. Could be wrong on that one, though.
Alabama got in due to media bias and losing two weeks earlier than OSU, and its that simple. I would wager that if that team from Oklahoma had be OU, and not OSU,in that same situation they would have gotten in over Bama to avoid the rematch. But they got fricked due to school name on their jerseys. Not to mention ESPN (I think) parading Saban out on set before the SEC Championship Game as their guest. Where was Mike Gundy? Oh yeah, his team had a game so they didn't get the benefit of such media exposure.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:40 pm to earl keese
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I BELIEVED that the teams that advanced to the title games during the BCS era should have been conference champions.
Or even division champions...... Bama didn't even make the conference championship game.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:47 pm to The Baker
Exactly right. Follow the money.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:30 pm to TrueTigerTale
You guys still listen to Hannigriff ? Jesus man.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:27 pm to ProjectP2294
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Nah, they'll just change the conversation to "Can a two loss team make the playoffs?" and "Bama is the best two loss team, do they deserve a playoff spot?" They won't just drop them from the conversation.
You are damn right. LSU is the only unbeaten SEC team, yet most of the talk is on Bama making the playoffs or Ole Miss winning out, and how does that impact a 1 loss Bama team.
They are already pushing this game aside while also trying to find every possible scenario that would help out Bama.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:29 pm to Datbayoubengal
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yet most of the talk is on Bama making the playoffs
on Bama talk radio today they were wondering which WalMarts the trophy would visit
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:31 pm to FulshearTiger
You're telling me that a 2 loss Bama team has NO chance to make playoffs, when LSU made BCSNCG w 2 losses.
There's 4 spots now. Don't underestimate the power of money. TV ads drive everything. Networks don't pay that kind of money without having a say.
Watching Ok St's championship game in 2011 should eliminate any doubts you might have in who is in the driver's seat.
ABC ran a Bama infomercial the entire game, including a ticker scrolling at the bottom. Saban at Bama is college football's most marketable item.
There's 4 spots now. Don't underestimate the power of money. TV ads drive everything. Networks don't pay that kind of money without having a say.
Watching Ok St's championship game in 2011 should eliminate any doubts you might have in who is in the driver's seat.
ABC ran a Bama infomercial the entire game, including a ticker scrolling at the bottom. Saban at Bama is college football's most marketable item.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:49 pm to MightyYat
Gumps STTDB! Perfect group to handle a game like this. None of the 2-3 deep a part of 2011 debacle. Game away from TS takes some pressure off because no one expects Tigers to have any shot. They will triumph get the 4 game monkey of their back and goin into next year at TS won't have near the pressure on them. Sat is the start of a tiger dynasty. Last two recruiting classes arguably the best looking at athletes on the field and were #1 this year. We see our young Tigers put best game together this year and due to history of this game and weather slowing down offenses. We win a fg fest. 26-19 Lsu!
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:00 pm to TheHat7
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We see our young Tigers put best game together this year and due to history of this game and weather slowing down offenses. We win a fg fest. 26-19 Lsu!
To me, the best part about the bad weather for LSU's offense and defense vs Bama is that it takes some of the crowd noise out of the game. They can communicate better.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:16 pm to TrueTigerTale
Bias will always play a part as long as voters vote on who they "think" is best rather than the results on the field.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:21 pm to Honkus
Got to love Charlie's passion ! He is absolutely right about Alabama's lock on gaining every advantage even when it's not on the football field! 
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:23 pm to TrueTigerTale
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To me, the best part about the bad weather for LSU's offense and defense vs Bama
the best part is it hampers Bama's ability to run the chase routes across the field that they've killed LSU with the past few years.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:14 pm to Mad_Mardigan
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Hannigriff sounded like a whiny baby today. LSU takes care of business and Bama won't be mentioned any further.
frick off with that noise. Yes, hearing about Bama on this board and amongst the fan base year-round is nauseating, but Bama week is THE time that it's permissable to voice any and all gripes against them.
Their inclusion into the playoff rankings, when there are Michigan state's and Stanfords and other teams that should receive just as much due as them have been completely left out because it's Bama ¯\_(?)_/¯ is lamentable to every other team in the country, not just the SEC. It's even more egregious that it's set up so that if we win, they won't drop too much and could re-enter those rankings by the end of the season, whereas we would plummet down, down, down in the rankings and have zero shot from then on.
It isn't even conspiracy, at this point. It's out in the fricking open. A national pundit texted Moscona last night and fully acknowledged that the rankings were a full-on display of the Bama bias. Their four star recruits get a bump to five stars when they commit to Bama on recruiting sites run by Bama grads. A Bama alum creates a rotating cross-divisional schedule up until a year where Bama would have to play a better team than mizzou, Vanderbilt, or Kentucky. Peterson's foot was fricking inbound on that interception. Didn't one of their OL admit he got paid at Bama during pre-draft interviews just a few years ago? What came from that? Nothing? When Coker transferred to Bama last year, he was instantly on the heisman and maxwell award watch lists, only to be beat out by a fifth-year converted RB.
I met a guy who told me he was a Bama fan, despite the fact he's always lived in BR and through a roll tide at me as if he had anything to do with them other than wishing he could carry saban's jock around all day. I asked him, "so, how long have you been a Bama fan? 4, maybe 5 years?" "You got me there," he responded.
frick Bama. frick all of them. I hope we stomp them so hard that saban pulls a spurrier. I hope that they lose every game. I hope that this year, the good guys win.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:38 pm to Mad_Mardigan
Field of 2 loss champions.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:43 pm to ForeLSU
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I realize that NCAA football is a very odd beast when it comes to deciding a champion, therefore my rationalization is always to look at game results, not subjective beauty contests.
I agree to an extent. Of course game results matter, but over a long season, you've got to also look at HOW a team plays, both in their wins and their losses, not just look at the final score.
If a team gets thoroughly dominated by an inferior team then that's far worse than a close loss to a good team. You've got to factor that in. Also, you've got to understand that a team is going to have ebbs and flows during the season, so you can "forgive" a bad week once in awhile.
So yes, losses matter, but it's not the end of the story. You've got to factor in all the variables.
Once we go to an 8-team playoff with automatic bids for the 5 conference champs plus 3 at-large, it will eliminate a lot of this stuff - except for the 3 at-large teams.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:50 pm to NEmichaelp
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Bias will always play a part as long as voters vote on who they "think" is best rather than the results on the field.
Here's a ridiculous hypothetical:
Team A wins 56-55. All of Team A's scores came on flukes: kick returns, blocked punts, fumble returns, pick 6s, etc. Team A didn't gain 1 single yard on offense.
Team B dominated both lines of scrimmage and marched up and down the field and gained 700 yards.
Who's the better team?
Team A? They won the game so they're better, right?
Now, this is an absurd hypo, but it's meant to show that you can't just look at the final score, you have to consider HOW the teams performed.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 5:23 pm to TrueTigerTale
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