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re: 10 and 3 season is very attainable
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:29 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:29 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Because at the end of the day, only a fricking idiot isn't happy about winning if the winning isn't done in a way that is the most entertaining.
You haven't been on the Tiger Rant at all this year have you? Or are you calling the Rantards idiots?
Some of the very people in this thread have probably been bitching about LSU's wins this year. In case you haven't read UF and Auburn are both very overrated. LSU didn't win those games or the others, the losing teams lost them in spite of LSU and the head coach.
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Back to your post:
But, it wasn't about the winning it was about the losing games with time running out, losing games to team's who didn't score one TD the whole game, it was about promising to open up the offense and then coming out with the same prehistoric shite as before. Etc, etc, etc.
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:36 pm to Tiger Ree
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I must have missed the part where the sentiment was that any first year HC with a new OC, WR, and RB coach having to play over 30 true and redshirt freshman with 8 true freshmen starting at different times could easily win 10 games. Hmmmm !!!
I didn't see anyone saying there was going to be any kind of acclimation period leading up to the season. In fact all we heard was how good things were going to be now that LSU wasn't held back anymore.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:45 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Right...had he WON MORE he'd still be here
Bottom line is he didn't win more. The one thing he could have fixed to correct the problem was to open up the archaic offense. He refused to do so and LSU has a different head coach now. Yes, offensive production and wins are dependent on one another in most cases.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:52 pm to Goldrush25
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I didn't see anyone saying there was going to be any kind of acclimation period leading up to the season
I didn't see anyone telling me to wake up and get out of bed this morning but I still did.
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In fact all we heard was how good things were going to be now that LSU wasn't held back anymore
I guess I'm lucky to have just enough brain cells to realize that with a new HC and offensive staff to not expect LSU to win a national championship this season. That was even before the crazy amount of freshmen having to play, the O-Line attrition and injuries and the injuries and academics on the D-Line.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:53 pm to Tiger Ree
10-3 with Ed Orgeron as the HC would be unthinkable, especially when you consider how the first 5 games of the season went. It would be highly impressive.
10-3 with Les miles was average. The reason he got fired was because of two reasons:
1.) He was never willing to change the offense.
2.) He wasn't able to get the job done vs. Bama.
10-3 with Les miles was average. The reason he got fired was because of two reasons:
1.) He was never willing to change the offense.
2.) He wasn't able to get the job done vs. Bama.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:21 pm to LlyodChristmas
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1.) He was never willing to change the offense.
That's what I have been saying.
The only reason the 10 wins thing comes up is because of the terminally miserable Tards on this board.
If someone posts that LSU can win 10 games and get to a good bowl game the permanently miserable have only one stupid argument to counter the person's excitement. The untruth that Les was fired for winning 10 games so why are they happy about it happening now.
The main reason Les was fired is because he broke his promise to open up the offense after almost getting the axe at the end of the 2015 season.
Everybody was excited going into 2016. LSU had Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Malachi Dupree, Travin Dural, Tyron Johnson, DJ Chark, Maea Teuhema, Ethan Pocic, Will Clapp, K.J. Malone, Jamal Adams, Tre'Davious White, Arden Key, Kendell Beckwith, Duke Riley among others AND LSU was going to open up the offense !!!! HELL YEAH !!!
When the Wisconsin game was over and LSU lost 16-14 with one of the TD's being a pick six by Tre’Davious White, people realized that the shite hadn't changed one bit.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 2:38 pm to Tiger Ree
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You haven't been on the Tiger Rant at all this year have you? Or are you calling the Rantards idiots?
Yes, and yes.
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Some of the very people in this thread have probably been bitching about LSU's wins this year. In case you haven't read UF and Auburn are both very overrated.
Well, UF just fired their coach mid-season, so I'd say that they might be a little less good than some were acting...right? AU was a solid win, no doubt.
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But, it wasn't about the winning it was about the losing games with time running out, losing games to team's who didn't score one TD the whole game, it was about promising to open up the offense and then coming out with the same prehistoric shite as before. Etc, etc, etc.
Again...this makes no sense at all. In fact, the only way this line of thinking makes any sense is if your objective is to give a gigantic grace period to the coach that follows him. That way, the new coach can win the same amount as the coach you just fired and if he does so in a way that seems slightly more entertaining to the casual fan than it's "better." In fact, we'll even have fans declare what used to be common place as suddenly "attainable!"
Posted on 10/30/17 at 2:44 pm to Drox15
Faith has nothing to do with it...we will not beat Bama this year...bama returns most all their players from their championship finalist team last season....we are not elite, Bama is very elite ....
Final Bama wins 31-6
There is only 1 team who might beat them ....uga...no one else in the country will come close to beating bama this yr...
Final Bama wins 31-6
There is only 1 team who might beat them ....uga...no one else in the country will come close to beating bama this yr...
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:34 pm to Tiger Ree
“ The main reason this was fired was because he broke his promise to open up the offense “
You can’t really believe that. Miles ran basically the same offense the whole time he was at LSU. If he was going to be fired for that, you could’ve been fired lots of times before.
Miles was fired for basically two reasons. He couldn’t beat Bama and he didn’t get along with Joe.
It appears to be fairly clear to me that Joe wanted a football coach he could control and that wasn’t going to be with miles. From what we have seen so for this year, it seems pretty clear that Coach O is going to do pretty much what he is told.
You can’t really believe that. Miles ran basically the same offense the whole time he was at LSU. If he was going to be fired for that, you could’ve been fired lots of times before.
Miles was fired for basically two reasons. He couldn’t beat Bama and he didn’t get along with Joe.
It appears to be fairly clear to me that Joe wanted a football coach he could control and that wasn’t going to be with miles. From what we have seen so for this year, it seems pretty clear that Coach O is going to do pretty much what he is told.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:01 pm to tlsu15
There's no proof he would have beaten McNeese. The Tigers went THREE AND OUT on its first possession.
Muh, Troy.
Muh, Troy.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:41 pm to LlyodChristmas
I agree the Bama game was a big part of it but I think the increasing struggles vs Ole Miss and Arky right after Bama was just as much of a reason. When you combine the fact that we have more NFL players than anyone plus the length of the streak vs Bama, starting to lose to Ole Miss and Arky and him not only refusing to change the offense but lying about changing it, then it becomes understandable. The Miles pumpers keep reducing it to “he was fired for winning 10 games a year” but like always they’re full of shite. When you’re on the hot seat you don’t give your boss the finger and expect to survive but that was Les the whole time at LSU he was the most arrogant coach we’ve ever had and he believed he was above the program and was untouchable.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:22 pm to Thacian
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To much kool aid talking going on in the rant....calm the frick down and lets beat arkie,tenn and tamu...and our bowl game....
I do not count a game as a loss, until the clock runs out.
..sorry to see that you do.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:31 pm to rbdallas
What got Miles fired was his ego and stubbornness ..
it all started at the NC game when he chose to surrender the game rather than to let Lee in .
I am not saying that it'd make a difference, but to not try out of pure stubbornness and ego got the ball rolling.
Then with Cam, the Off was to have changed and nothing did..
his way or the highway .. ironically it became the highway -for him.
it all started at the NC game when he chose to surrender the game rather than to let Lee in .
I am not saying that it'd make a difference, but to not try out of pure stubbornness and ego got the ball rolling.
Then with Cam, the Off was to have changed and nothing did..
his way or the highway .. ironically it became the highway -for him.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:46 pm to rbdallas
“ rather than put Lee in “
The most mobile quarterback we had spent the night running for his life, but Lee was going to handle that pressure when he hadn’t been able to handle it in his whole LSU career? I think not. Doing what had never worked before just to be able to say that you tried it, is just dumb.
This season’s LSU offense in SEC games is throwing fewer passes, gaining less passing yrs, and scoring less points than in 2015.
The most mobile quarterback we had spent the night running for his life, but Lee was going to handle that pressure when he hadn’t been able to handle it in his whole LSU career? I think not. Doing what had never worked before just to be able to say that you tried it, is just dumb.
This season’s LSU offense in SEC games is throwing fewer passes, gaining less passing yrs, and scoring less points than in 2015.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:13 pm to rbdallas
It's nothing more than a prediction buddy...however 99.9 percent of it will be very accurate come Saturday night by 10pm....again,people like yourself need to take the emotions out of it and just look at big picture, we have a good team but not a playoff team... lol...facts bro...bama is better than Lsu at this time...if u wanna drink the kool aid then good for u....but again 10-3 is good for this program considering the last 3 years
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:30 am to tlsu15
Fake news! Les got fired because he lost several northern Louisiana prospects to Bama, his poor relationships with former players (not allowing them access to the program). Getting blown out to ole miss, Arky. Recruiting slipped particularly on the o-line and d-line. Not changing the offense after promising to do so. For also allowing special teams to become one of the worse in the nation despite having more kickers then linebackers on the team. And he also failed to hire an offensive coach that could develop a quarterback. The program clearly slipped the last several years and if you refuse to see this then I cannot help you.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:29 am to GeauxTigerTM
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And now we're being told that 10 wins is ATTAINABLE. Well, yeah...it always has been. The issue is we just fired a guy for whom 10 wins season were seen as underachieving. What is all this shite...shouldn't Orgeron and his staff be offended by the low expectations?
Miles was fired because it was time for him to go.
Orgeron was hired because we needed a coach and apparently the only other two options in the world said no..
Orgeron was not hired to bring the program to new heights. He's filler, pure and simple.
Hopefully he can have a good year or two, but saying we hired him because we honestly thought he'd exceed Les' accomplishments is ridiculous.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:04 am to tlsu15
True but do you remember how ugly those three losses were in a row? It was bad and to top it off we were the number two team in the nation going into the Bama game. The wheels flew off after that Bama game.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:04 am to tlsu15
What got Miles fired was his hard headedness and lack of keeping up with some sort of an evolving offense 
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