re: 10 and 3 season is very attainable

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10-3 wasn't the reason he was almost fired. He was almost fired because of LSU's inept offense and his refusal to change

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Honestly...then that's even sillier. So, he was winning enough, but not in a way that we liked...?

No...he was fired because his offense was lacking AND AS A RESULT most felt that we could be doing EVEN BETTER if he either upgraded or was replaced by someone who would run a more potent offense. But make no mistake, he was let go because he wasn't winning enough...with the BAMA game being the most obvious issue.

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It’s Miles’ fault that weather cancelled a game against an FCS opponent now?

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No, it Miles fault that the wins were just as ugly to watch as the loses.

I do think a 10-win season is very attainable, but it will require no letdowns the rest of the way.

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Honestly...then that's even sillier. So, he was winning enough, but not in a way that we liked...?

No...he was fired because his offense was lacking AND AS A RESULT most felt that we could be doing EVEN BETTER if he either upgraded or was replaced by someone who would run a more potent offense. But make no mistake, he was let go because he wasn't winning enough...with the BAMA game being the most obvious issue.

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OH Really???

ESPN - LSU Tigers coach Les Miles fired due to stubbornness offensive

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Les Miles was a one-of-a-kind character who won a lot of games in Baton Rouge, but it was his inability -- or refusal -- to adapt on offense

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Sports Illustrated - Beloved but stubborn, Les Miles lost his job because he didn't evolve while LSU's rivals did; Punt, Pass & Pork

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The Mad Hatter isn't LSU's coach anymore, and that feels wrong even though the reasons for his firing were absolutely justified.

He also stood firmly in place as the game changed around him,

He didn't change offensive coordinators, even though Cam Cameron's contract expired after last season. (Instead, Cameron got another deal.) Miles didn't make any dramatic schematic changes to the offense, even though the Tigers have been predictable on that side of the ball for years. He and his offensive staff didn't develop the quarterbacks on the roster

Instead, Miles dug in deeper—convinced that with Leonard Fournette toting the ball, the Tigers didn't need an offense from this century to overcome their competition in the SEC West.

The clock debacle at the end of Saturday's loss at Auburn wasn't the worst part of the defeat for Miles. The worst part is that his team lost a game in which the opponent couldn't even reach the end zone.

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CBS Sports - Les Miles lost his job because he refused to evolve like Nick Saban

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The downfall for Les Miles was undoubtedly self-inflicted. No matter how likable he was, how many games he won in the past or how often he ate grass, Miles stubbornly refused to evolve on offense.

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FOX Sports - LSU set offensive record in the first game after Les Miles was fired

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Well, if one game was any indication, the Tigers should have gotten rid of Miles sooner.

LSU's offense was nothing short of explosive in the Tigers' 42-7 which included 634 yards of total offense. If that sounds like a lot, it is. It actually set the school record for most yards ever for LSU in an SEC game.

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There are a heck of a lot more articles on the REASON Les is no longer the coach.

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OH Really???

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Yes...REALLY. Who knows more about our program...locals who follow it daily or fricking national pundits who drop in to do a piece? Don't we all understand this anytime they either say or write some piece on a guy and they can't even get his damned name right?

So...your thinking here is that LSU would have retained Miles with his exact same record if it had been obtained by virtue of an offense more like Texas Tech's? OK...feel free to think that I guess.

Again...that's idiotic, unless the goal isn't about winning and it's about pure entertainment.

You could make a case that his style LEAD TO a winning percentage that was not good enough, but to say that his numbers were fine...it just wasn't flashy enough is something some supermodel might say about a sports team.

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So...your thinking here is that LSU would have retained Miles with his exact same record if it had been obtained by virtue of an offense more like Texas Tech's? OK...feel free to think that I guess.

Again...that's idiotic, unless the goal isn't about winning and it's about pure entertainment.

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It's idiotic to think that LSU wouldn't have done better record wise if they ran Texas Tech's offense. Miles refusal to adapt the O is why he is gone plain and simple. The clock gaff at the end of the Auburn game didn't help either.

Here was Les himself in 2017 on his phenomenal changes he was anticipating.

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The Tigers at the time of his firing had a sputtering offense that came up short in losses to Wisconsin and Auburn. Miles figured a turnaround would come as quarterback Danny Etling continued to gain experience after the team benched Brandon Harris in the opener, he said.

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"Brandon Harris we felt like was going to continue to develop, and for whatever reason, he did not take the strides that we would have loved to have him take," Miles said. "Danny Etling was going to be the guy. We turned to him."

Miles anticipated the games at Lambeau Field against Wisconsin and on the road at Auburn would be closely contested. After that, "I really felt like we were in great position to continue to evolve."

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LSU offense 'always was in position to do well,' Les Miles says in radio

He wasn't going to change a thing. He was relying on Brandon Harris to evolve.

Or maybe he just doesn't know what the word "evolve" means.

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Yes...REALLY. Who knows more about our program...locals who follow it daily or fricking national pundits who drop in to do a piece?

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Yeah, all of the hundreds of media articles on the subject were all INCORRECT.

But the Rant posters are ALWAYS 100% correct about everything. If they say he was fired for not winning more games then that's it. End of story. Ha Ha ha Ha !!!

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Miles refusal to adapt the O is why he is gone plain and simple.

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Only in so far as it effected the record.

At the end of the day, the issue for any coach (and for any fan with at least half a brain) is the final win-loss record. As such, Miles was fired because his averaging 10 wins a season was no longer seen as good enough at LSU given the resources available, both in terms of financial and infrastructure and in terms of players. 5 straight to BAMA and our former coach was additional icing on the cake.

But...and here's the good point...were it not for a handful of small missed opportunities, many of which were defensive in regards to losses to BAMA, Miles and his 1970's inept offense WOULD STILL BE HERE and he'd be here because he'd have more hardware because of more wins. That shitty offense was THIS CLOSE to handing LSU many more wins.

Because at the end of the day, only a fricking idiot isn't happy about winning if the winning isn't done in a way that is the most entertaining.

I don't need some yahoo telling me how to enjoy the season.

I rather watch each game and enjoy the experience. This isn't a business venture for me and I want to watch each game and enjoy the atmosphere with friends. If I knew the outcome of the season before hand that wouldn't be much fun.

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If he or his offensive staff could have developed a QB during their careers at LSU he would have won more and still be at LSU.

If he could look at a clock and actually understand what all the numbers mean in relation to a football game he would have won more games and still be at LSU. Example: his last game as the LSU coach.

If he did, maybe if he didn't meddle with the offensive plays during games he would have won more games and still be at LSU.

If would have remained the Mad-Hatter or Lestitcles instead of going into a conservative shell his last few years he would have won more games and still be at LSU.

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Right...had he WON MORE he'd still be here, whether he ran the ball 100% of the time into 11 man boxes or not. The issue is, and always will be, that he did not win enough for the tastes of LSU fans. and that's why suddenly declaring the exact type of win-loss record that we became angry about under the former staff as some fantastic season under the new one is a clear double standard.

Either accept the fact that a 10 win season is really good and ought to be looked at as such, or declare it isn't But it's logically inconsistent to declare it not good enough for one and great for another..