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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:16 pm to
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9-4 (for too many seasons) got the last coach fired


You don't fire a head coach four games into a season for a 9-4 record.
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If 9-4 is a good season, we should just have kept Les.


Hey, I for one loved watching the offense never change and the clock running to zero right before LSU would score the game winning points. I wish he was still here. I missed the good ole days. I can't believe they fired him after the Auburn game - that was bullshite !!!

"Auburn game - "As same mistakes continue, Les Miles might be out of time at LSU - After this latest clock management blunder, Les Miles' clock might have finally run out, too. I know it was chaotic, but LSU wasted way too much time. Should've been sitting in formation, waiting to snap it…""


""Coach Les Miles says LSU Tigers clock management gaffe addressed" - Then LSU runs out of time in his last loss at LSU."

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shite, it’s like the damn twilight zone in here with idiots saying 9-4 is a good season at LSU who wouldn’t have EVER said anything that stupid when Les was coaching


You have a definite Les-love going on here. I'm sure he appreciates it.
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Are you really that desperate to have “one of us” as coach that you’ll drop your expectations to 9-4?


Who said this? I think most level headed LSU fans realize that 9-4 in a coaches first season, having to play over 30 true and RS freshmen including two on the Oline for the majority of games and having little to NO depth on the Dline is reason for optimism going forward. Kind of like this thread about getting a very highly sought after cornerback to commit.

Some quotes on defense from the article linked below.

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The 24th-ranked Tigers will play Ole Miss without rotational players Michael Divinity, at outside linebacker, and Ed Alexander, at nose tackle.


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LSU is already without four defensive players: edge rushers Andre Anthony (ankle/foot) and Sci Martin (presumably suspended/ineligible), and defensive backs Kristian Fulton (presumably suspended/ineligible) and Ed Paris (knee - out for season).


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Also, defensive back Xavier Lewis, once a rotational player at nickel, has not played in a game in nearly a month, and two defensive linemen are ineligible: freshman nose tackle Tyler Shelvin (academic redshirt) and transfer Breiden Fehoko (transfer rules).


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Depth is a lingering issue for the Tigers this season. At one point during LSU's loss at Mississippi State, Orgeron had four defensive linemen available for three D-line positions.


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Earlier this season, defensive end Christian LaCouture played every snap of a game. Starting defensive end Rashard Lawrence missed three of the first five games with an ankle injury, and a broken finger prevented Alexander from playing in two games.

All of the above is in this one article - AND Earlier this season, defensive end Christian LaCouture played every snap of a game.


This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:22 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:17 pm to
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But this team fired their coach.
But this team barely had a winning season.
But this team had someone injured
But this team had the sun shining in their eyes (this one hasn't been used YET but when other excuses for wins are exhausted I'm sure it will


Oh I'm waiting on the excuses.

But but a bear ate the other team's playbook

Yeah but a swarm of killer bees attacked their defensive line.

But their starting QB was trampled by an elephant before the game.

So you can't count those games. Those games prove nothing.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:19 pm to
I don’t really disagree with you about the first season thing...9-4 was not a disaster, and it was his mulligan. I don’t want him fired...I want him to win 10+ regular season this year. And this team, thanks in large part to his recruiting, is more than capable of doing it.

He has no excuses not to.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78150 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:20 pm to
They went 13-1

I think That’s a pretty decent rate dipshit.

We went 2-4 vs teams with more than 6 wins.

Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:26 pm to
Wouldn't be surprised if we finish in the top 3 in recruiting. O doing what he does
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:27 pm to
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Are you crazy? 9-4 (for too many seasons) got the last coach fired. 9-4 is not an unmitigated disaster, but to call it a good season at LSU is insane.

If 9-4 is a good season, we should just have kept Les.

shite, it’s like the damn twilight zone in here with idiots saying 9-4 is a good season at LSU who wouldn’t have EVER said anything that stupid when Les was coaching.

Are you really that desperate to have “one of us” as coach that you’ll drop your expectations to 9-4


Yeah like none of this is true and nobody has dropped any expectations. You sound like a hysterical woman.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:28 pm to
You can lie all you want. Those of us who have been around here long enough know the truth.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78150 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:29 pm to
If 9-4 is a good season than we fired a guy who only ever had 2 bad seasons.

10-3 isn’t good enough.

9-4 just isn’t good.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294597 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:30 pm to
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They went 13-1

I think That’s a pretty decent rate dipshit.

We went 2-4 vs teams with more than 6 wins.



What's a decent rate? Everything that Bama foes?

LSU beat Auburn, Auburn beat Bama and by your definition LSU wasn't any good...

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:33 pm to
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I don’t really disagree with you about the first season thing...9-4 was not a disaster, and it was his mulligan. I don’t want him fired...I want him to win 10+ regular season this year. And this team, thanks in large part to his recruiting, is more than capable of doing it.

He has no excuses not to.


Wow. That was a seemingly calm and very rational post. In the post I responded to you were calling a poster crazy, mentioned the twilight zone and asked the person if they were desperate.

I don't know if you wore yourself out with your post or if maybe something I posted from the article caused this but it is a most welcome turnaround.

I personally just don't buy the "end-of-the-world" mantra for LSU football like others are spewing. And yes the article I quoted and linked has to do with some of my optimism.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:35 pm to
Sorry it just sets me off a bit when someone says “9-4 is a good season” at LSU with no qualifiers. 9-4 in the first year with those circumstances was no disaster, but 9-4 in perpetuity would be fireable.

And no, I don’t buy into the “everything negative all the time” mindset. I do believe in consistency and standards for a program regardless of who is coach.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:36 pm to
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They went 13-1

I think That’s a pretty decent rate dipshit.

We went 2-4 vs teams with more than 6 wins.


Sometimes it helps to look at the post someone is replying to before calling THEM a DIPSHIT over what they posted.

His bama comment was in response, oh hell, you look it up DIPSHIT.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:38 pm to
Sure hope all these great players will cover up the obvious coaching inadequacies we've seen from Orgeron.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14513 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:39 pm to
O sucks. So tired of him with all the good recruits and winning percentage in excess of 70% at USC and LSU when their prior coaches were so bad they were fired and his ability to keep Aranda on board as a DC. Aaarrrrrgggghhhh!!! This sucks. I am sick of this. Why can we not have Bellicheck as our ephen HC with Saban as a defensive coordinator? With fans dedicated enough to “ALMOST” make it to halftime before leaving we deserve so much better.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:41 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294597 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:42 pm to
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Sorry it just sets me off a bit when someone says “9-4 is a good season” at LSU with no qualifiers. 9-4 in the first year with those circumstances was no disaster, but 9-4 in perpetuity would be fireable.


Ok cool, we get it, you hate O and want it set up where he can't succeeed.

It's been repeated here a thousand times, it's old and the players report to camp in a few weeks. Time to move on
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50622 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:43 pm to
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you hate O and want it set up where he can't succeeed.


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It's been repeated here a thousand times, it's old


Solid.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:45 pm to
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Ok cool, we get it, you hate O and want it set up where he can't succeeed.


Where the hell do you get this from what I posted? If you think O is incapable of winning 10+, that’s on you. I never said he was. And he should not be incapable of it with this team.

You obviously don’t think he can win 10+. If that’s so, why are you lowering the bar for him?
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:47 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294597 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Where the hell do you get this from what I posted?


Probably the thousands of posts you've put here essentially saying the same thing over and over...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294597 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Sure hope all these great players will cover up the obvious coaching inadequacies we've seen from Orgeron.


Not sure about his preparation but his gameday coaching is superior to Miles. At least he has situational awareness

Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:49 pm to
I’m not the only one on here who has said that’s the standard. Hell, some have said win the SEC or GTFO. I’m not there, but 10+ has been the number with most on here since Les was coaching. And it’s been consistent.
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