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Wouldn’t lockdown corners make our DL better?

Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:05 pm
Posted by NASTY
Covington
Member since Mar 2008
619 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:05 pm
Granted, I don’t know much ball, but with Ricks, Toviano, and Harris, doesn’t that help our DL get home? Just trying to brighten the sour mood some posters have over DL production
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29192 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:09 pm to
We’re not really in need of pass rushing defensive lineman. We have those. What we’re missing are the big uglies that plug up running lanes and let the linebackers work.

And we’re fine for the upcoming season. We’re a year away from really stressing about the position imo.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8996 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:15 pm to
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And we’re fine for the upcoming season. We’re a year away from really stressing about the position imo.
We’re a play away from being in serious trouble. We all seen what happened to Maason against FSU. In that case, we had Wingo, a freshman all-SEC waiting to pick up the slack. We currently don’t have that guy.

Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:19 pm to
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In that case, we had Wingo, a freshman all-SEC waiting to pick up the slack. We currently don’t have that guy.



Wingo is still here….

And Wiggins will be ready.

You have to get guys like Langston and Guillory to turn the page.

There’s work to do but we’re not in dire straits just yet.

Everything is in place to have, if not elite, a very good defensive line next year.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9573 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:20 pm to
Yes. But edge rushers make the DBs life easier more than the inverse.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22170 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:21 pm to
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let the linebackers work.


I think after the commits tonight, this is the group that concerns me at the moment.
Posted by 2003tigerfan
Member since Aug 2018
2026 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:29 pm to
You know who else can help the DL a lot? …a stud linebacker like Devin White
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1503 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

Granted, I don’t know much ball, but with Ricks, Toviano, and Harris, doesn’t that help our DL get home? Just trying to brighten the sour mood some posters have over DL production




This is a "6 of one and half a dozen of the other" situation. Let's take a look at the 2 best LSU defenses in the "Golden Era" (2000-present)

Recall in 2003 the dominant DL made the coverage job of the secondary much easier, with a boatload of interceptions and passes defensed. Each of the starting corners had 4+ interceptions and 28+ passes defensed on the year. The DL had 44 sacks and an incredible 171 QB hurries. On the year the defense gave up a lower than 50% completion percentage. The secondary had 21 interceptions and 129 passes defensed. This defense dominated from the DL outward. This DL absolutely beat the hell out of every QB they faced.

On the other hand, recall 2011 where a dominant secondary made the performance of the DL better (and I am not saying that that DL was a slouch by any stretch of the imagination). 18 interceptions with 58 passes defensed with a slightly over 50% completion percentage with the DL contributing 39 sacks and 37 QB hurries. The 2011 defense dominated from the back end forward.

However, what did both of these defenses have in common. Both had good to great DLs and good to great DBs. To field a dominant defense you really need to have both as they feed each other. Hence, the 6 of one, half a dozen of the other analogy.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
29192 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:37 pm to
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I think after the commits tonight, this is the group that concerns me at the moment.



Whit Weeks is a dog and I don’t think Braithewait is getting enough love.

I don’t think either are day one players but I think the future is in good hands.

LB will be our weakest area next year though I agree.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8996 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:14 am to
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Wingo is still here…
When I said “that guy” I meant a guy who can step in without losing production like Wingo. This past year we had Maason and Roy with Wingo to back them up. Now Roy is gone and there’s no one behind Maason and Wingo to spell them so they aren’t on the field all game. We can all hope that Wiggins is ready. He came in with all of the physical potential you can ask for, but was really raw.

Hopefully, he’ll take a huge leap in the off-season, but I don’t think we just go all in on that. Have to grab a big run stuffer that can rotate in if possible. If not we shouldn’t expect the D to be any different than last year.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 4:16 am
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10020 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:26 am to
Yes but to be fair, our DBs were pretty good this year.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12760 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:22 am to
quote:

Granted, I don’t know much ball, but with Ricks, Toviano, and Harris, doesn’t that help our DL get home?


A dominate DL makes corners look that much better.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35330 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:38 am to
Good DL makes our corners better too.


It’s what I love about football.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
7488 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:11 am to
Not against the run
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4478 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:46 am to
It is the other way around usually. Our D line got pushed around by TAM and Georgia
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
20916 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:55 am to
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Whit Weeks is a dog


What does that even mean?
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