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re: Word out of Jennings is Lsu waited too long
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:31 am to Space Cowboy
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:31 am to Space Cowboy
quote:Well, when you have an offer from a+m and no firm offer yet from LSU, how do you hold that against Etienne?
LSU has the right to run its own recruitment as it sees fit too. Let’s also not forget that he had previously committed to Texas A&M either.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:34 am to Space Cowboy
Well, we will know later today. Even if he picks Clemson, I will be interested to see if he immediately cancels his OV this weekend. If he doesn't, maybe his mind changes...again. Based on his Dad's comments in that article, maybe LSU can pull a reverse Monte Rice here.
If you guys recall, Rice got ruffled over the UGA staff pressing him when he asked for no visits. Aranda did what he asked and kept his distance and he committed based on that. However, he swung back after thinking things over. His proximity to UGA and connections to other recruits won out over what may have been a rash initial decision.
Too much damn drama this year.
If you guys recall, Rice got ruffled over the UGA staff pressing him when he asked for no visits. Aranda did what he asked and kept his distance and he committed based on that. However, he swung back after thinking things over. His proximity to UGA and connections to other recruits won out over what may have been a rash initial decision.
Too much damn drama this year.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:35 am to nicholastiger
quote:
Etienne feels slighted and Clemson comes calling.
The only legitimate reason for him to feel slighted is if he was the number one rated 5 star running back in the country, and he wasn't even close.
Moreover, all teams use a priority based recruiting board. LSU isn't alone in that regard. Hence, if he is too immature to realize that he wasn't the highest rated player at his position on the board, then he needs to go somewhere else because the last thing LSU needs is another prima donna on the team.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:35 am to misey94
Well LSU should have offered him (TE), CEH,and CA. This would have naturally worked itself out, now these kids will understand we have 2 spots for 3 kids get on board secure your spot. TE was the best RB in the state so he should have been offered earlier. Recruiting works multiple ways LSU has to learn to adjust instead of pouring it all out for Akers. This board will never get it cast a wider net make recruits compete for a position, and want to be apart of that years class.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:36 am to misey94
Dabo does not allow recruits to take visits so if he commits to them he will cancel.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:37 am to clamdip
quote:
Well, when you have an offer from a+m and no firm offer yet from LSU, how do you hold that against Etienne?
Apparently, it sailed right over your head, you missed the point buddy.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:38 am to DowntownDBrown
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Well LSU should have offered him (TE), CEH,and CA. This would have natural worked itself out, now these kids will understand we have 2 spots for 3 kids get on board secure your spot. TE was the best RB in the state so he should have been offered. Recruiting works multiple ways LSU has to learn to adjust instead of pouring it all out for Akers. This boatd will never get it cast a wider net make recruits compete for a position, and want to be apart of that years class.
what happens when Travis tries to commit four months ago? LSU obviously didn't feel he was the best RB in the state when Miles was around and they had a legit shot at a top RB in Akers. you have the luxury of hindsight when you claim that we should have offerred months ago. I didn't see you posting on here during the summer that LSU needs to offer Etienne.
YOu can't just offer Louisiana kids unless you are willing to take their commitment. It burns too many bridges. LSU coaches have to be very careful with LA kids.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:39 am to Duckie
I'm perfectly fine with Helaire being the only back. Kid is legit. I just know we need at least two next year with our depth after Guice.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:40 am to TigersFan64
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Of course the kid (Etienne) is going to feel disrespected. Number one RB in the state and LSU doesn't jump on him early???
#1 back in the state doesn't mean you're LSU caliber. The staff, along with Clemson mind you, felt like he wasn't a can't miss prospect.
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It's almost as stupid as LSU not recruiting Dak Prescott until it was too late. Etienne may still come to LSU, but if he does, we'll be fortunate.
LSU didn't offer Prescott because he stunk it up at LSU camps back to back years. Obviously that turned out to be a misevaluation but lets not act like he had big time programs knocking down his door either. State is trash.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:40 am to Space Cowboy
quote:Forgive me, El Guapo. I do not have your superior knowledge or education. But, could it be, that you are upset about something else (*), and are looking to take it out on me?
Apparently, it sailed right over your head, you missed the point buddy.
(*) Like stupidly mixing up Taylor and Allen earlier this week, or being generally clueless at times.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:42 am to zed44
So a couple old guys tossing their opinions around a small cafe is the official word out of Jennings? GTFO
GTFO Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:44 am to Duckie
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what happens when Travis tries to commit four months ago? LSU obviously didn't feel he was the best RB in the state when Miles was around and they had a legit shot at a top RB in Akers. you have the luxury of hindsight when you claim that we should have offerred months ago. I didn't see you posting on here during the summer that LSU needs to offer Etienne. YOu can't just offer Louisiana kids unless you are willing to take their commitment. It burns too many bridges. LSU coaches have to be very careful with LA kids.
I agree when it comes to last summer. I just wish O had gone ahead and offered when he got the job. It was clear early on that we didn't have an strong inside track to Akers. They should have hedged their bets earlier, rather than later. However, this stuff will happen when dealing with kids, I guess.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:51 am to zed44
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To recruit Etienne. I stopped there to eat breakfast on way to Houston. It's the talk of this little cafe this morning
By the way, what took Clemson so damn long to issue Etienne an offer. There offer came after LSU's? Oh maybe he wasn't as high up on their recruiting board also. Oh well, that's how the cookie crumbles.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:51 am to misey94
quote:
It was clear early on that we didn't have an strong inside track to Akers. They should have hedged their bets earlier, rather than later. However, this stuff will happen when dealing with kids, I guess.
I agree they should have hedged but they were in a very strong position with Akers. The kid even said as much. For a long time, he thought he was going to LSU.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:54 am to zed44
If true, the kid doesnt understand recruiting then. Does he believe he was Clemson's first choice?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:58 am to skullhawk
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I agree they should have hedged but they were in a very strong position with Akers. The kid even said as much. For a long time, he thought he was going to LSU.
Yeah, but we lost all that momentum during the wait to hire an OC. That really seemed to turn Akers off.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:58 am to JakeFromStateFarm
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Sounds like he got his feelings hurt.
Not necessarily.
As already stated, there's a difference in the way that different players are recruited. A lot of effort was put into recruiting Akers and he was encouraged to commit. It's my understanding that the staff has put a respectable effort into recruiting Etienne, but I'm not sure if it was a commitable offer until after Akers was off the board, or if he was asked to be patient, etc. That isn't necessarily cause for anger, but it is cause for players in that position to have an open mind to other options.
And if the article someone posted above with the comments from the dad (that Etienne changes his mind about where he wants to go every week) is true, then he doesn't sound hurt about anything. He just sounds like a kid who realizes he has options and can see himself playing at either place. Maybe he would've committed to LSU if they pressed harder earlier; maybe not. We may all see LSU as the better place for RBs and players with NFL aspirations in general (and it definitely has been... pretty much every productive RB at LSU over the last 10+ years has made it to the league). But if Etienne does choose Clemson, it honestly could be as much or more that he liked their pitch and his opportunity there, but doesn't have any hard feelings about LSU. Especially if-- as his dad suggests-- LSU rotates into his favorite every 2nd or 3rd week.
Really just sounds like if the roulette wheel stopped at a different point, LSU might be the choice, but it looks like it's going to stop today on Clemson. I hope it's otherwise, but if he does move on, hopefully it opens things for someone else.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:00 am to misey94
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I just wish O had gone ahead and offered when he got the job.
Why...Coach O wasn't an offensive coordinator or even an offensive coach. Not to mention, that at the time his hands were pretty full too. I kind of assume he was planning to wait until he hired an offensive coordinator before he made offers on the offensive side of the board.
In addition, I'm not so sure that Etienne is as good as you novice talent evaluators believe he is. On top of that, there may be other issues involved that we don't know about. Anyway, he's not the first recruit we miss on and I'm sure he won't be the last. By the way, why did Clemson wait even longer than we did to make Etienne an offer?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:05 am to lsuhunt555
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1. Its not disrespectful, its a numbers game.
This is an 18 year old kid who is the #1 rated RB in the state, and the flagship program in his home state doesn't show real interest until they can't get a kid from Mississippi. You can't expect him to just coldly say, "Okay, it's a numbers game" and not be annoyed. It's not like he's a 30 year old man.
2. So why is it not disrespectful for Clemson to only offer after a decommit?
Simple, because Clemson isn't his home-state school who snubbed him over an out-of-state kid they couldn't get.
3. They recruited Dak at a different position, its a totally different scenario.
Uh, no, you totally missed the point here. The fact that Dak Prescott was recruited as a TE to LSU and not a QB WAS totally stupid. Mississippi State saw his talent early on and was the first school to offer him a scholly as a QB. So the point remains - not offering Etienne early on was almost as stupid as NOT offering Dak Prescott until it was far too late.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:10 am to TigersFan64
Only if TE turns out to be as good as DAK has been.
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