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re: With Kelvin Joseph leaving, who is left from that 2018 recruiting class contributing?

Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:14 pm to
From 247 AGAIN:

quote:

“There’s a lot less flexibility right now in terms of how many LOIs you can give out, how many LOIs you can receive, scholarship numbers. Now with more opportunities to dip into that transfer portal and find some graduate transfers or immediately-eligible impact type of players,


How the Transfer Portal affects National Signing Day



quote:

The former four-star linebacker has been on campus and practicing with the team since August.


Early Signing Period: West Virginia counts Alabama transfer VanDarius Cowan as part of 2019 signing class


CSU football expects to fill last void in signing class with late additions and transfers



I can go on and on and on and on.


Forbes article on transfers

Nothing of interest in the article but the Forbes article had this as the article's picture.


"Because his program signed 20 prospects in December's early signing period, LSU coach Ed Orgeron, center, and his coaching staff have been able to concentrate on recruiting a few key remaining 2018 prospects, as well as current high school underclassmen, ahead of next Wednesday's national signing day. (Photo by Michael Reaves/Getty Images)"

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Stop...just stop. Step away from the keyboard and take a Xanax.


It kind of hurts to realize that if EVERYBODY as Thunder puts it was jumping off a cliff you would be dead right now, doesn't it?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:19 pm to
We're not talking about how transfers count against scholarship numbers, we're all well aware at how things work there.

We're talking about them being outside of recruiting class rankings. You cant be this dense. When people are referencing the #15 rankings with 22 signees, it CLEARLY doesnt include the transfers (or a walk on).

Again, the links provided clearly shows NO transfers as part of the 2018 recruiting class, it shows 22 signees/enrollees, which was ranked #15, and the discussion was on those specific players. If you want to join that conversation without bringing in a bunch of unrelated people, let us know.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:32 pm to
this has to be a coordinated message about Burrow, specifically (esp in light of how much of a disaster the 2018 class has become)

hopefully this is optimism from O and his fat friend about Burrow's prospects this year
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

We're not talking about how transfers count against scholarship numbers, we're all well aware at how things work there.

We're talking about them being outside of recruiting class


NO, WE ARE NOT.

thread title:
"With Kelvin Joseph leaving, who is left from that 2018 recruiting class contributing?"

Doesn't say a word about rankings.



quote:

You cant be this dense


You can't try to change the purpose of this conversation every two pages to try to get it to match your stupid argument.

quote:

When people are referencing the #15 rankings with 22 signees, it CLEARLY doesnt include the transfers (or a walk on).


Well it should. I just posted a crap-load of links that say they do and that was just off the first page of a google search. Seems like EVERYBODY that knows anything about recruiting and signing classes disagrees with you.

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Again, the links provided clearly shows NO transfers as part of the 2018 recruiting class


Did you happen to miss my many quotes and links? The one about Fehoko as told by an LSU compliance officer? He said he counted towards the 2017 class. He is not on the 247 recruiting ranking list but he counted towards the 2017 class. Did you miss the link about West Virginia counting the Bama transfer as a signee for their class?

If you did, there are a WHOLE lot more. Like I said all of the stuff I posted was on the first page of a search and I didn't even look at the Advocate and some other articles.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:53 pm to
which recruiting sites list transfers with recruits in their yearly rankings? can you link them for me?

for example, the 2019 LSU Class on 247 has the recruits and another section for transfers

ESPN has nothing

Rivals has nothing

so if 247, LSU, and Rivals all list the classes without transfers, why would anyone be talking about transfers when discussing recruiting classes?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:58 pm to


y'all can call this the "Ree" and use it freely
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

so if 247, LSU, and Rivals all list the classes without transfers


Their lists are for recruiting Rankings ONLY. Grad transfers already count for someone else's class when they initially signed.

quote:

why would anyone be talking about transfers when discussing recruiting classes?


Quote from Blair Napolitano, LSU's Assistant Athletic Director for Compliance.

"For instance, DT Breiden Fehoko, who transferred to LSU from Texas Tech after the 2016 season, counts in the Tigers' 2017 signing class from last February."
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74144 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Quote from Blair Napolitano, LSU's Assistant Athletic Director for Compliance.

"For instance, DT Breiden Fehoko, who transferred to LSU from Texas Tech after the 2016 season, counts in the Tigers' 2017 signing class from last February."


What does that have to do with the rankings?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Their lists are for recruiting Rankings ONLY.


again, i'll quote last page

that's literally exactly what we're talking about
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70907 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

"With Kelvin Joseph leaving, who is left from that 2018 recruiting class contributing?"

Doesn't say a word about rankings.



It says clearly 2018 recruiting class, which is this:
These 22 players
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70907 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Did you happen to miss my many quotes and links?


None of which were to the 2018 recruiting class specifically and only, but articles and this and that and added in transfers, etc...

The 2018 recruiting class has been posted for you many times, but you have chosen to ignore it:
247

Rivals

Let us know when you can actually get on the same page as the rest of us.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74144 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:30 pm to
On the actual topic of this class, I see Dantrieze Scott as the lowest rated guy in the class and people were upset when I called him a questionable take at the time. They wanted to compare him to the guy we just got on signing day this year.

Except that we got him committed 8 months before signing day.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70907 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:32 pm to
2018 was loaded with questionable takes in the end, hence why only 2/3 of the class is left at this point 1 season in
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74144 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:34 pm to
"Trust the coaches. Even if they were already the ones that recruited the classes you bitched about earlier in this thread"

-TigerRee, probably

ETA: But yeah, there were definitely some guys in that class that were headscratchers when they committed and are already out of the class. It's always funny when you don't even need hindsight.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:42 pm to
quote:


quote:

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Quote from Blair Napolitano, LSU's Assistant Athletic Director for Compliance.

"For instance, DT Breiden Fehoko, who transferred to LSU from Texas Tech after the 2016 season, counts in the Tigers' 2017 signing class from last February."
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What does that have to do with the rankings?


Nothing, I was simply answering this question. Try to keep up:

"why would anyone be talking about transfers when discussing recruiting classes?"
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74144 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Nothing, I was simply answering this question. Try to keep up:

"why would anyone be talking about transfers when discussing recruiting classes?"


Oh. Well then what do transfers have to do with a recruiting class? Especially in the context of this thread, which you seem uniquely unable to grasp?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

ETA: It's always funny when you don't even need hindsight.


Yep, sure is. When a class has 8 starters including two team stats leaders and four other that played enough to burn their redshirts. It doesn't take a lot of hindsight to see this class has produced and continues to do so.

And when only 3 draft eligible underclassmen declare for the draft it does not take hindsight to see why the lowest rated players from the latest signing class are leaving the program.

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74144 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:50 pm to
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four other that played enough to burn their redshirts.


Is this supposed to be some sort of measure of the quality of the class?
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8630 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:51 pm to
Jesus. I wonder how many of you would argue with their Grandmama about how to scrabble an egg, lol.
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