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Why Prep baseball grades always at a premium?

Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted by tadelatt
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:03 pm
How come we can get all the details we want on any other sport except baseball when it comes to recruiting? Why is everything we want to look at locked away in a Premium Content area for all these sites?

Serious question here.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:13 pm to
If I had to guess it’s because with the lack of interest in baseball recruiting they have to make most of their money through subscriptions rather than ads. Most people are more interested in keeping up with minor league prospects than the college recruiting aspect.

Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:15 pm to
Because baseball parents spend a fortune on the game and baseball grading camps/websites/showcases are generally a big scam to get parents to shell out even more money. That’s it. The whole youth baseball system has turned into a big ole money pit filled with loser adults who never made it anywhere in life but profit off of selling dreams to crazy baseball parents
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:17 pm to
That would be my guess as well.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Because baseball parents spend a fortune on the game and baseball grading camps/websites/showcases are generally a big scam to get parents to shell out even more money. That’s it. The whole youth baseball system has turned into a big ole money pit filled with loser adults who never made it anywhere in life but profit off of selling dreams to crazy baseball parents


Showcases are how kids get descovered by pro and college coaches and scouts. I’m not sure what pissed you off so much about these websites, but I’d say the football camps and sites are a bigger scam
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Showcases are how kids get descovered by pro and college coaches and scouts. I’m not sure what pissed you off so much about these websites, but I’d say the football camps and sites are a bigger scam



But football sites have free access to player ratings and rankings, which was the OPs point.

You can get football/basketball ratings and rankings for free from just about everywhere but almost all the baseball ratings and rankings are behind pay walls.

I think the 2nd person explained it well with baseball not being as popular a sport so they need to make money if they are going to spend the time doing rankings somehow since it wont be through shear site traffic. I mean even d1baseball.com went paid for their SCOREBOARD. Baseball is definitely a lot different.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:42 pm to
I wasn’t responding to OP in my second post. I was responding to the guy calling it a scam
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:45 pm to
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Showcases are how kids get descovered by pro and college coaches and scouts

found the guy who’s either shelling out $1000 a year for camps or running them. In high school there were showcases that I signed up for, never attended, and still received several letters from colleges telling me “how much they liked what they saw”. I’m just calling a spade a spade.

I played a lot of baseball for a long time from a low level around terrible coaches and people to a very high level around phenomenal coaches/people and the whole camp scene is 100% a way for coaches to line their pockets while telling gullible parents how great their kids are. If your kid is good enough then he won’t need a $250 showcase to get discovered and every single coach out there knows it. Again, just calling it how I see it and how I experienced it. For every 1 kid who gets “discovered by college coaches” there are 500 who are completely wasting their money and time and aren’t good enough to play college ball in any circumstance, but will still repeatedly be invited back to spend more money on more camps. You don’t smell something slightly scammish with that business model?
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:25 pm to
I have a cousin who's son is committed to play ball for LSU and I asked him the question as to why I couldn't see certain things on perfect game, and he told me that its up to the parents. They can block certain things on the perfect game site that you are not allowed to see.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:50 pm to
95% of the kids at camps are just there hoping to get noticed and the coaches pay no attention to them, but if you think coaches don’t use camps to get closer and more personal looks at specific prospects that they invite there the you are not as knowledgeable as you claim.

Also, camps like perfect game is absolutely used to evaluate talent. They keep official records of the prospects 60 time, shuttle speed, position velo, exit velo, gpa and just about everything else you need to know. There’s a reason why those subs are free to scouts and coaches.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40297 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 3:13 pm to
The camp stuff is a combination of both. If it is just a general all
comers camp, then forget about it. That is just a money maker. But coaches would like to see players that they are interested in competing up close against comparable talent in their “ID camps”.” Plenty of examples of kids that LSU football wanted to get in camp to evaluate more. They didn’t come.....they didn’t get an offer.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 3:15 pm
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12266 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:33 pm to
Just as an FYI

Prep Baseball Report
PBR+ - $100/yr
Prospect Plus - $300/yr
Scout Plus - $350/yr

Perfect Game
Insider - $60/yr (No Rankings)
Premium - $200/yr
Scout - $450/yr


Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
47664 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Showcases are how kids get descovered by pro and college coaches and scouts
this...

There are too many crap high school teams out there to use that to evaluate kids...
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