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Who are we actively recruiting for the OL this year?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 8:53 am
Posted on 8/18/19 at 8:53 am
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Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:04 am to saturncube21
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Good question. Dumervil and ?
The same people that downvote you are going to be the same ones complaining about poor OL play this year. Book it.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 9:14 am
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:08 am to saturncube21
Dumervil
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:10 am to saturncube21
I'm sure there are a few others, but everyone really wants Marcus Dumervil, big OT whose teammate is committed to LSU.
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Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:16 am to WWade04
At one point I was hearing a lot about Crawford who I think is committed to Arky but I havent heard anything on him in a while. Don’t know what happened there.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:45 am to steve123
LSU HAS to sign a minimum of 3-4 OLmen in this class.
This is why...
You lose 3 to graduation...Traore, Lewis, and Magee.
That leaves the following 11...Cush, Rosenthal, Wire, Hines, Thomas, Bradford, Perry, Deculus, Charles, Campbell, and Turner. Ingram would make 12 if he can return.
Then there is a chance Cush leaves early due to draft potential, which would bring that number down to 11...or 10 if Ingram can’t rerurn.
LSU currently has 2 OL prospects committed (Martinez and Jackson). Jackson is a bit of a crapshoot at this point. I mean nobody is saying anything about this kid. Grades?
So best case scenario you get Ingram back and Cush stays for his senior year. Then you sign 3-4 true OL this year and get your numbers up to 15-16.
But if Cush leaves and Ingram doesn’t return then you would start ‘20 with only 13-14 true scholarship OL and that’s with adding 2 more to this class (hopefully Dumervil and 1 other).
And this doesn’t include any current players getting homesick, wanting to transfer, severe injuries, or just deciding to quit football.
So imo, anything less than 3-4 OLmen in this class is poor roster management.
This is why...
You lose 3 to graduation...Traore, Lewis, and Magee.
That leaves the following 11...Cush, Rosenthal, Wire, Hines, Thomas, Bradford, Perry, Deculus, Charles, Campbell, and Turner. Ingram would make 12 if he can return.
Then there is a chance Cush leaves early due to draft potential, which would bring that number down to 11...or 10 if Ingram can’t rerurn.
LSU currently has 2 OL prospects committed (Martinez and Jackson). Jackson is a bit of a crapshoot at this point. I mean nobody is saying anything about this kid. Grades?
So best case scenario you get Ingram back and Cush stays for his senior year. Then you sign 3-4 true OL this year and get your numbers up to 15-16.
But if Cush leaves and Ingram doesn’t return then you would start ‘20 with only 13-14 true scholarship OL and that’s with adding 2 more to this class (hopefully Dumervil and 1 other).
And this doesn’t include any current players getting homesick, wanting to transfer, severe injuries, or just deciding to quit football.
So imo, anything less than 3-4 OLmen in this class is poor roster management.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 12:15 pm to SoloTiger
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LSU HAS to sign a minimum of 3-4 OLmen in this class.
This is why...
You lose 3 to graduation...Traore, Lewis, and Magee.
That leaves the following 11...Cush, Rosenthal, Wire, Hines, Thomas, Bradford, Perry, Deculus, Charles, Campbell, and Turner. Ingram would make 12 if he can return.
Then there is a chance Cush leaves early due to draft potential, which would bring that number down to 11...or 10 if Ingram can’t rerurn.
LSU currently has 2 OL prospects committed (Martinez and Jackson). Jackson is a bit of a crapshoot at this point. I mean nobody is saying anything about this kid. Grades?
So best case scenario you get Ingram back and Cush stays for his senior year. Then you sign 3-4 true OL this year and get your numbers up to 15-16.
But if Cush leaves and Ingram doesn’t return then you would start ‘20 with only 13-14 true scholarship OL and that’s with adding 2 more to this class (hopefully Dumervil and 1 other).
And this doesn’t include any current players getting homesick, wanting to transfer, severe injuries, or just deciding to quit football.
So imo, anything less than 3-4 OLmen in this class is poor roster management.
I'm on your page.
Just think of how many OL we had to use last year and how many different combinations we played with. It is a very difficult position to learn and stay healthy in. Furthermore, it's a very difficult position to evaluate when you are recruiting as some just can never get the technical side of things to play well in the SEC.
I wonder if O is planning on watching the JUCO ranks this year to see if anyone stands out? Is Gaye going to play this year on the OL to be evaluated? Maybe they have a plan. But right now, 3 OL (assuming we get Dumervil) is not going to cut it. I'm just not sure why Dumervil hasn't committed.
I just think all the effort in the world has to go into recruiting QB's and lineman. Recruiting other positions to LSU is not nearly as hard.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 12:29 pm to SoloTiger
Everyone I think would agree LSU ideally should have at least 3 or 4 o-linemen in this class. Saying the6 have to sign that many implies they should reach if they have to. I would not pass on a highly rated running back like Johnson to offer a much lower rated lineman.
Our probably best case scenario at this point is to get Dumervil. I expect Camron Jackson to move to offense. Along with Marlin Martinez that gets you a three man class, but not a super strong one.
Most likely LSU is going to have to make o-line the focus of next year’s class like this year with the defensive line. I think we see one or two juco players next year. About the only silver lining of being thin next year on o-Line is that makes you more attractive to juco and transfer players.
Our probably best case scenario at this point is to get Dumervil. I expect Camron Jackson to move to offense. Along with Marlin Martinez that gets you a three man class, but not a super strong one.
Most likely LSU is going to have to make o-line the focus of next year’s class like this year with the defensive line. I think we see one or two juco players next year. About the only silver lining of being thin next year on o-Line is that makes you more attractive to juco and transfer players.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 12:44 pm to paper tiger
If we are having to "reach" to sign enough OLmen then what does that tell you? Nobody wants a scrub player to fill out the class, and it is Cregg and O's job to sign 3-4 "quality" OLmen every... single...year. It's not like there is a law that limits them to only recruit the state of LA. That's just an excuse imo.
If Cush comes back, you get Ingram back, and you sign Dumervil I think the numbers will be ok.
But...getting all 3 mentioned above is not a given by any stretch.
To me 15 scholarship OLmen should be the minimum on your roster to start a year.
If Cush comes back, you get Ingram back, and you sign Dumervil I think the numbers will be ok.
But...getting all 3 mentioned above is not a given by any stretch.
To me 15 scholarship OLmen should be the minimum on your roster to start a year.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 12:47 pm to SoloTiger
I don't know why they're crushing it seemingly at every other position this class but we can't get one blue chip OL recruit. It defies logic.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 12:57 pm to Goldrush25
There doesn't seem to be as much o line talent in the state this year. Maybe I'm wrong though. It just seems like there aren't as many guys we like out there as on past years.
Maybe we've just been missing on guys.
I will say though, coach o is a well known excellent recruiter, roster management is something that goes along with that somewhat.
I just believe that there's way to many elite coach's and other contributors on staff here at Lsu ,for there not to be a plan ,and a back up plan, in place for roster management at all positions.
Maybe we've just been missing on guys.
I will say though, coach o is a well known excellent recruiter, roster management is something that goes along with that somewhat.
I just believe that there's way to many elite coach's and other contributors on staff here at Lsu ,for there not to be a plan ,and a back up plan, in place for roster management at all positions.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:01 pm to saturncube21
Ty Crawford and I think we are keeping tabs on Brady ward
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:24 pm to SoloTiger
quote:Lloyd Cushenberry was a "scrub" player.
If we are having to "reach" to sign enough OLmen then what does that tell you? Nobody wants a scrub player to fill out the class, and it is Cregg and O's job to sign 3-4 "quality" OLmen every... single...year. It's not like there is a law that limits them to only recruit the state of LA. That's just an excuse imo.
High rankings just mean they're ready to play now and is not an indication of their abilities. Look at all the players over the years that LSU alone has signed last minute or to little fanfare that have turned out to be key contributors and cornerstones of the program. You have guys like Duke Riley, Lloyd Cushenberry, Justin Jefferson, KJ Malone, Foster Moreau, Perry Riley, Kelvin Shepard, Josh Dworaczyk, Lavar Edwards, Bennie Logan, Lamin Barrow, etc that just need a couple years to transform their bodies to become the players that contribute. The guys like La'el Collins, Cam Robinson, Saddiq Charles, Ed Ingram, etc. are rare to just show up and start playing.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:57 pm to MLU
Well we also have the whole season to pursue more. O understands the value of the trenches so I’m positive that’s the priority from here on out. There always seems to be late surprises like Jacob Phillips so I think it’s a little premature to freak out about numbers and lack of OL.
If this was November I would be singing a different tune
If this was November I would be singing a different tune
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:28 pm to Miganey
My opinion, Cregg isn’t doing his job if we constantly struggle to get top OLmen.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:54 pm to moock blackjack
There is a great deal to be said for holding scholarships for offensive linemen until you can see them play as seniors.
It's hard enough to evaluate that position group without having to do so while they're 16 years old.
If Dumervil doesn't co.mit you might very well want to wait and see if anybody develops in our core recruiting area as a big time recruit as a senior. Our best returning lineman is Lloyd Cushenberry, after all, and he was a kid who went from a mid-major recruit to an SEC take as a senior.
It's hard enough to evaluate that position group without having to do so while they're 16 years old.
If Dumervil doesn't co.mit you might very well want to wait and see if anybody develops in our core recruiting area as a big time recruit as a senior. Our best returning lineman is Lloyd Cushenberry, after all, and he was a kid who went from a mid-major recruit to an SEC take as a senior.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:56 pm to saturncube21
Shut up
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:59 pm to SoloTiger
Traore redshirted last year.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 4:07 pm to dwariley
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Traore redshirted last year.
Traore played all 13 games last season
Posted on 8/18/19 at 4:48 pm to Tigerpride18
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There doesn't seem to be as much o line talent in the state this year. Maybe I'm wrong though. It just seems like there aren't as many guys we like out there as on past years.
We've been getting a ton of national talent elsewhere. Why are we blaming the lack of o-line recruits on the lack of in-state prospects? Get a couple of those cornfed mid-western guys.
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