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We should never sign the class limit
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:09 pm
I brought this subject up last year, and most of the responses seemed to prefer we sign our limit. At the time, I could buy the theory that getting Burrow as a transfer was like striking gold. Cole Tracey was also a gem. We couldn't always get that lucky. I don't agree anymore.
After looking at the this year with Cox and Shanahan.
Even with the CB we brought in, we were able to select a player where a need developed.
That transfer spot is just too valuable. You don't know what need will develop nor do you know what stud player will be there looking to transfer in. You have to leave that option open for your team.
After looking at the this year with Cox and Shanahan.
Even with the CB we brought in, we were able to select a player where a need developed.
That transfer spot is just too valuable. You don't know what need will develop nor do you know what stud player will be there looking to transfer in. You have to leave that option open for your team.
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:32 pm to N2daWild
quote:
We should never sign the class limit
Incorrect
LSU should never force signing a player
If you don’t love the player, don’t force it to fill a need
If you love 25 guys, you sign them
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:02 pm to MrWiseGuy
I like this. If all your takes sign, great. if they don't we have developed talent waiting in the portal to be used. I remember on ESD (I think it was ESD) and we missed on Rakim, Juliam fleming, and Zach Evans. Felt like we took a major L on that day then months later we pick 3 transfers that are projected starters or at least viable depth at positions of need. I think we came out on top with that.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:16 pm to N2daWild
I mean guys like Gage, Jefferson, and Moreau were last minute adds.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:44 pm to TheWalrus
And Cushenberry.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:55 pm to GeauxO19
And we don't lose the scholly if someone doesn't make it to campus.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:48 pm to N2daWild
Yeah you shouldn’t force a class limit. But don’t turn down studs and LSU is getting dangerously close to one of those programs that consistently get monsters from all around the country.
I agree with you though. I think if possible saving 2-3 spots a year is ideal
I agree with you though. I think if possible saving 2-3 spots a year is ideal
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:22 pm to MrWiseGuy
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If you love 25 guys, you sign them
Would be nice to get to a spot where you love 25 signees. My guess is that not even Saban, Meyer or Dabo have loved all 25 most classes.
I agree with the OP that in the new ways of things we are better off at least holding 1 and probably at least 2 schollies most years. The problem with signing 25 — even if you love them all — in February is that you don’t yet fully understand your needs. Saving 1-2 every year buys you time to better manage your roster when needs arise. Seems to happen a lot
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:50 pm to burreauxxx
Agreed. Have to take advantage of what has become a college form of free agency.
Will be interesting to see if LSU can get Todd in without using a ‘21 scholarship. That would help with a possible numbers crunch.
Will be interesting to see if LSU can get Todd in without using a ‘21 scholarship. That would help with a possible numbers crunch.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:17 pm to N2daWild
Agreed, the transfer “market” has become such a massively important aspect of college football, and Coach O has excelled in finding great talent from this pool of players
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:38 pm to GeauxO19
Fleming? You mean Burton..
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:06 pm to SoloTiger
I don't think we're gonna have a number crunch, but Todd not being on this year's numbers would help if we did.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:15 pm to N2daWild
quote:Yes, and O and company continue to play chess while most are playing checkers. If anyone understands how valuable transfers can be at this point, it's O who has managed to orchestrate these fantastic pickups. How many times has O seemingly missed only to have a backup plan or two as good as the original? At this point, I'll assume they know what they are doing.
After looking at the this year with Cox and Shanahan.
Even with the CB we brought in, we were able to select a player where a need developed.
That transfer spot is just too valuable...You have to leave that option open for your team.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:43 pm to MrWiseGuy
Like the running back provens.
Also the guy Desmond something from alabama last year
Also the guy Desmond something from alabama last year
Posted on 9/21/20 at 5:46 am to N2daWild
By signing 25, you are almost guaranteed that the bottom four or five (based on production and playing time) will transfer from LSU and those scholarships are gone forever. I agree with OP, sign 22 or 23, if history is a good indicator at least two or three of these will hit the portal, but at least you have two or three spots open to fill their spots.
Bottom line the number of signees each year that will stick with the program is 20 at most, give yourself some flexibility to get that number to 22 or 23 by adding transfers when the position(s) of need are known.
Bottom line the number of signees each year that will stick with the program is 20 at most, give yourself some flexibility to get that number to 22 or 23 by adding transfers when the position(s) of need are known.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:26 pm to TigerPackage
And Debo Jones, IIRC
or perhaps it was Duke Riley
or perhaps it was Duke Riley
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:48 pm to chicageaux_tiger
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By signing 25, you are almost guaranteed that the bottom four or five (based on production and playing time) will transfer from LSU and those scholarships are gone forever.
Signing fewer than 25 wouldn't really help with this issue, because it's rarely the "last 4 in" that wind up being the 4 least productive (see shea's article about "mr irrelevant")--it's just that, among the 25, there will inevitably be a few who don't produce. That will still be the case even if we only sign 20-22; we'll still have guys that don't pan out.
If it was always the bottom 4 guys in the class who wound up transferring because they couldn't hack it, we wouldn't continue signing those guys.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 2:00 pm to N2daWild
I agree. The transfer open spot has become a very valuable spot, we have to change with the times
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:36 am to N2daWild
I wouldn't say never. If, in the recruiting process, you have 25 guys that you love and think can contribute then sign them up. On the opposite end, I do agree that we should not just sign 25 kids to fill a quota.
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