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re: WBB Loses Commit to Sourhern

Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by STRIPES
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:39 pm to
I simply acknowledged your agenda which was to falsly ellevate the academic ranking of not one but 2 HBCU schools.

When you are as inaccurate as your posts were regarding those institutions it is pretty obvious what your belief system is to anyone with a pea for a brain. I simply called it as it is. I also am not the one who is name calling. That would be you.
Posted by Musa I of Mali
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:02 pm to
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it is pretty obvious what your belief system is to anyone with pea for a brain

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I also am not the one who is name calling. That would be you.

Posted by Musa I of Mali
Member since Jan 2017
454 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:04 pm to
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Let me know dude.

Seriously, you need a reality check. You are living in a world of your own. Please reread your posts and come back tomorrow with a clearer head.

Let's clarify a few things ...

1. NO ONE has turned this thread into a race thing. If you say otherwise, you are paranoid.
2. LSU is a far better academic institution than is Southern. It's proven by independent ratings, quality of instruction, and YES, student ACT scores. I think the OP implied otherwise.
3. Yes, I am sure Southern may have 1 or 2 programs out of a 100 or more that may be better than the corresponding program at LSU. I'm not sure what they are, but engineering and nursing are not anywhere close.
4. Leaving the south will not help you; instead, an adjustment in the way you perceive the world and the people in it is what you need.

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Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:24 pm to
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In addition, you mention yet another black college, Alcorn (they should all be shut down as they define themselves as existing for racial purposes-"HBCU"


Do you know what the H in HBCU stands for? Those colleges were, indeed, created so that blacks could have a chance at higher education while living in the segregated South. However, they accept students of all races and religions, hence HISTORICALLY black colleges and universities.

Saying they all need to be shut down because of that past is extremely ignorant. Louisiana certainly has too many four year universities and some should be shut down, but that should be done on merit, not because a minority of white people can't accept the history of the schools.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:09 am to
By your own words you expressed the reason HBCU schools are obsolete. They were in fact created to give the black community opportunities for education which were limited at that time due to segregation and laws prohibiting blacks from attending the other State Universities such as LSU, SLU, LaTech, ULL, etc. Those days have long since past and just as there were black high schools which were shut down or combined with the white system the same should happen in colleges. There is no need for Louisiana to pay for these schools. For what purpose? In the case of Grambling you have La Tech all of 8 miles away in rural North Louisiana. There is no need for this and is expensive and just cuts the education pie smaller.

In Southern's case, there is LSU and BRCC right in Baton Rouge and to keep open a school which was founded upon needs that no longer exist is simply unwise.

Historicly Black Colleges & Universities simply have the wrong reason to exist and it comes at a great expense to the higher education in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 9:15 am
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:46 am to
Little did I know this thread would have went to this place.
However, to some degree, I would agree to a large extent. Just look at the white athletes on several of Southern's teams.
In my day, that was unheard of because of the issues.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 6:43 am to
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Being diverse doesn't mean quality. All it means is that there are a large number of black instructors. Congratulations.

If you want to talk rankings then lets talk about the Southern Business School ranking of #481 nationally or the Nursing School you seem so proud of supposedly being ranked (by somebody) as #1 in Louisiana when Southern isn't mentioned in the Top 50 Nursing Schools in the South according to Nurses Almanac. Incidently, LSU's Nursing School is ranked at #2 behind Duke in the same rankings and LSU is ranked as #5 Nationally.

Southern as an institution is not even ranked in USNews in their annual college rankings. Not ranked at all. Southern is ranked #40 in the HBCU Rankings.
I can go on and on.

BTW, these rankings are factual and in todays upside down, feel good, everybody gets a trophy, candy-arse world quoting them is somehow supposedly racist to some of the nitwits on this board. Well, any of you Snowflakes who think that just learn to deal with reality. Sometimes the truth hurts.

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Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 6:51 am to
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HBCU national rankings. Southern is tied at number 40 with guess who? That's right, Grambling.

Once again, I am simply stating FACTS.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 6:52 am
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:32 am to
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Regarding Law School rankings, where in the world did you get the idea the Southern had one if the best law schools in the US? That is simply not true.

Of the Top 150 Law Schools ranked by US News in their annual rankings (they have been doing this for many years) LSU is ranked #96 which is above Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Mizzou, Texas Tech, Miami and other reputable schools.

Southen is rated as "RNP" which means Rank Not Published.

LSU Law School has a 86.5% passing rate of the Bar Exam. Southern has a 22% passing rate of the Bar Exam.

Once again, these are published rankings and are factual not some made up BS posted for some other personal agenda. The truth is simply the truth.
Posted by winntiger
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:36 am to
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Yes they do....very much so. The Louisiana Nurses Foundation has recognized Southern University’s graduate nursing program as the best in the state. For the third time in five years, Southern’s nursing program has earned the university the group’s “Nursing School of the Year — Advanced Practice Program” distinction. “This award serves as additional evidence of the excellent quality of nursing education at Southern Baton Rouge,” School of Nursing and Allied Health Dean Janet Rami said in a news release. Other honors for Southern University during the annual Nightingale Awards Gala: Dr. Jacqueline Hill, who chairs the undergraduate nursing program at Southern, was inducted into the Louisiana Nursing Hall of Fame, Erica Joseph was chosen as “Advanced Practice Nurse of the Year” and Gordon Natal was awarded “Nurse Educator of the Year.” LINK



This is an OT topic that has taken over a recruiting board thread. Having said that nursing schools are largely judged off their NCLEX passage rate. While Southern BR has a high passage rate, they are behind every school in the state except for Grambling, Dillard, LC, Nicholls and OLOL.

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This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 7:39 am
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:41 am to
As long as they post nonsense as fact I will dispute it with actual facts.

The Nurses Almanac is a widely respected publication. They do not acknowledge Southern's Nursing Program as Top 50 in the Southeastern US and disagree with previous posts from others who are simply incorrect.

If you desire to have this type of conversation to be off of this board then they should stop posting nonsense.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 7:46 am
Posted by Musa I of Mali
Member since Jan 2017
454 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:23 am to
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Being diverse doesn't mean quality. All it means is that there are a large number of black instructors.

When you were little did your school bus have helmet and seat belts? .....the next time I hear that the United States is successful because of it's diversity, black people will take all the credit thanks to you.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 10:03 am
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:45 am to
Take credit for whatever you want. You take credit for Southern Academic rankings with no foundation in truth so claim away dude.
Posted by Musa I of Mali
Member since Jan 2017
454 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:12 am to
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Take credit for whatever you want. You take credit for Southern Academic rankings with no foundation in truth so claim away dude.

Actually I didn't mention any rankings...your feelings got hurt when I said In my actual life I would have chosen to go to Southern Miss and Alcorn before I went to LSU in my degree field because they offered better departments. It's the 21st century man, your college only matters if you work where you went to school. The old "good luck getting a job" comment to a recruit who leaves the state for example. Get out and travel, the world is bigger than where you live. I've got a masters as do many in my company and the person who run the show has an associates degree from a Junior College and a ton of certifications because he knows his shite and didn't care to accumulate a ton of debt just to get a job. If you just want to go to school and don't have a plan, going with the "popular" state school is probably the right choice for you because you'll need someone to hire you off favors but when you're actually "qualified" and good at what you do the name of a college on a piece of paper matters very little. Why would you even want to work for someone that hires people because of where they went to school, sounds like a company destined to fail.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:51 pm to
Why would my feelings get hurt? All I did was refute incorrect assertions from you and another poster.

One of them posted that Southern had "one of the best Law Schools in America" when only 22% of the Southern Law School grads could pass the Bar Exam. That is proven to be totally inaccurate by any standard you choose, rankings or graduation rate.

The contention that the Southern Nursing program was the best in the state was also incorrect. I simply pointed out that a reputable nursing publication doesn't even rank Southern's nursing program as being in the Top 50 in the South yet LSU is rated as #2 in the South behind Duke and LSU was also rated as #5 nationally.

I also pointed out the unranked status of Southern University as an academic institution and their #481 ranking of the Southern Business School. FOUR HUNDRED EIGHTY ONE. I mean what is the point?

Southern is rated as #40 (tied with Grambling) as an HBCU school which places Southern as tied as the #7 Academic Institution in the SWAC.

I'm not upset but Louisiana residents should be for having to pay their tax dollars for such outstanding performance. If you are happy with it then good for you.

My points have been made. I am finished talking about non-debatable topics such as Southern's academic status.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted by ToppDogg85
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
76 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:32 pm to
She might just want to play for a HBCU. Regardless it's her choice to make. LSU is a great university and so is Southern. If we as adults could just only turn our focus on the positives and stop trying to find negativity it wouldn't be so much tension in our comments to each other. God bless you all!!!!!
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:22 am to
Well, some of us live in reality and don't believe in appeasement and the "everybody gets a trophy" and "we are all winners" mentality because it is fake.

If that works for you then do it. That mentality is BS to some of us.

Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34248 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:42 am to
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Well, some of us live in reality and don't believe in appeasement and the "everybody gets a trophy" and "we are all winners" mentality because it is fake.

If that works for you then do it. That mentality is BS to some of us.


Dude, just give it up. For every good point you make, you toss out some ignorant statement that undermines your entire position.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:20 am to
I really don't care what you in your infinite self-appointed wisdom think "dude".

Your in-depth analysis of this thread is acknowledged.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34248 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:26 am to
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I really don't care what you in your infinite self-appointed wisdom think "dude".

Your in-depth analysis of this thread is acknowledged.


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