re: Visitors This Weekend In BR + 1 croot signing early

That's not my point. I understand how the system works. But by the time the final rankings come out, many of the players are already committed and the results are skewed.

If an Alabama offer and commitment is beneficial to a recruit's rankings then, by definition, Alabama will have higher ranked recruiting classes. (this is true for any top school, just using Alabama as an example).

I believe in the star rankings and have followed recruiting for decades. But the rankings are kind of like demographics: statistically they are accurate for the entire population, but are not really beneficial when analyzing a specific person.

That is the problem also with high schools. When a kid can play quarterback in hs but is a defensive end in college, wow,! With his size no way is he a quarterback in college unless he has unbelievable abilities. I know Newton but that's a whole new animal.

How many times do I have to say he's not 230.

Jesus.

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So is he 6'1 230 Or is he. 6'1 260

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He is a really fast 260 lb QB probably just put their best player behind center. If remember he was like 190 two years ago 230 last year and now 260 and still pretty much same speed. There’s a reason LSU and Alabama has offered as he would be ranked higher if playing diff position as he won’t be QB in college...

I've seen Williams play several times this year and while he is a helliva athlete & is a load, there's no friggin way he sniffs a 4.6. Not that he has to to be a Lewis Neal type, but I have concerns about him at LB. Run stuffer no doubt, but Devin White is much faster. Seems like he needs to either drop 10-15 & gain speed or put on 10-20 for DE.

Ask Boisie State, plus doesn't LSU litter its roster with 4 and 5* players on top of those 3* guys?

That's the difference when I hear you morons say that LSU will become Arkansas or A&M. LSU still gets those high 4* and 5* players every year, so we will not become Arky. But what Les Miles and LSU hasn't had is guys to take spots when those 4 and 5* players leave early. If LSU can recruit solid guys to fill those voids while staying in JUCO or transfers for guys, then we have fixed the problem we've been having for at least 5 years. Always being young, that has to change.

When you get those players, get the ones who are smart, driven, have the size and speed needed. It's not that hard to understand. It would be great if LSU could go out to CA, NJ, WA, OH, IA, FL, SC, and VA for their best but we can't. Maybe at some point we will be able to do that but until then we have to get the guys we think can fill needs.

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quote: Muster objectivity Lol. Yeah only you . Or maybe we just disagree on these two players . Both guys are definitely takes . We have been talking about Mike Williams here for years . Watch his tape - watch him play - talk to area coaches- look at his offer list - Ask yourself why Nick visited Dunham and offered. Kids a great LB/DE prospect, a high character kid , and tough as nails.

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Are Michael Williams and Glenn Beal the silent commits that Oeaux has mentioned, or were they the 2 JOCO OL guys, or someones else ?

Anybody know who the silent commits are or were ?

Offer list says it all. When u see half the Sec and schools like Clemson FSU Texas & Oklahoma offer most of the time they are for real and play often at the P5 level at some point

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Bjorn Cyborg Visitors This Weekend In BR + 1 croot signing early At what point does a player become a 3-star, 4-star, or 5-star? Where do you draw the line? If LSU (or anyone) evaluates, offers and takes a commitment from a 2 or 3 star, and then later during his senior year they player is elevated to a 4-star, then did LSU offer a 2 star or a 4 star? My main issue with stars is that, with offer lists being a factor, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sure, Alabama gets mostly 4 and 5 stars. But if those players commit somewhere else, what are their rankings? It's kind of a rigged system.

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Totally agree.
Alabama commits get ranked higher, so do Ohio St recruits and UGA recruits.

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If an Alabama offer and commitment is beneficial to a recruit's rankings then, by definition, Alabama will have higher ranked recruiting classes.

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Because the most accurate rating of college recruits is not 247 or Rivals, it’s Nick Saban and the aggregate of all college coaches. If Bama and Ohio State are hard after a recruit of course the services will bump him.