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re: Updated -Rivals 100 and 250
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:14 am to Brown Mountain
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:14 am to Brown Mountain
when does LSU offer McFarland and Monroe? Summer Camps?
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:19 am to Brown Mountain
These lists are fun. But are very biased and not very credible.
Still makes the offseason more bearable
Still makes the offseason more bearable
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:20 am to Big Kat
UF with the top class in the SEC currently, based on these rankings.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:32 am to Brown Mountain
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I'm surprised about Louis not being in it. Probably next time, and a good shot at 4 stars tomorrow
I agree with this. I think he is the only other Louisiana prospect that deserved a top 250 ranking. He may still get a 4th star tomorrow.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:33 am to Big Kat
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These lists are fun. But are very biased and not very credible.
There are so many recruiting services now that there is no true evaluation to say who is the best. Finish top 10 across the board, and the talent is in place to compete for titles.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:35 am to jdg91878
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Finish top 10 across the board, and the talent is in place to compete for titles.
Completely agree.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:37 am to jacks40
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1) what was Bowden doing so wrong?
I have heard numerous Bobby Bowden interviews after the 90s run, and he repeatedly attributes national recruiting as his issue. He was very clear that Georgia, Bama,and the nearby states would have been okay, but when he started filling his classes from Cali, Ohio, etc the decline started. He claims there is nothing like playing in front of 90K screaming fans from your home state.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:58 am to jacks40
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1) what was Bowden doing so wrong?
2) what was preventing Jimbo from this type of thing while still just the OC?
1. A lot of problems, mainly he lost control, hired coaches that shouldn't have been coaching college let alone HS. Bobby was relying on talent instead of player development. A whole lot of other BS. Coaches fighting(fist fight in front of the players on a number of occasions).
2. At FSU Jimbo had no control or input into the program. Even though he was HCIW, he was about 4th or 5th in the chain of command. He controlled the offense only.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:09 pm to Brown Mountain
Kudos to Texas A&M for getting verbals from two highly rated Louisiana boys. Hopefully, we can get them back to LSU in February.
Recruiting gurus, are we still pursuing Davante Bourque as it seems like we already have a plethora of RBs.
Recruiting gurus, are we still pursuing Davante Bourque as it seems like we already have a plethora of RBs.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:23 pm to jdg91878
A class in the Top 10 usually means you have a few national Top 50 guys. Those are the can't miss, any idiot realizes they are bad arse recruits.
But sorting through players that are mid to low 4 star, compsred to mid-high 3 star is tough. There really isn't that much of a difference.
And again, one of the major things that these sites look at is offer list. When a player (that's not the obvious 5 star) commits early they haven't accumulated a large offer list yet. But, if they are signed with a name brand program (Texas, USC, Ohio St, etc) they get the bump up. While if they signed with a lesser school (think Missouri, Miss St, Iowa type school) they don't get that bump but instead get a 3 star rating.
I personally like the Texas rankings that Billy Luicci of TexAgs puts out. He's seen most of those kids play and not just a short highlight film, and his lists are pretty stable
Geoff Ketchum's Texas list of players is a joke. It changes often and for obvious reasons
But sorting through players that are mid to low 4 star, compsred to mid-high 3 star is tough. There really isn't that much of a difference.
And again, one of the major things that these sites look at is offer list. When a player (that's not the obvious 5 star) commits early they haven't accumulated a large offer list yet. But, if they are signed with a name brand program (Texas, USC, Ohio St, etc) they get the bump up. While if they signed with a lesser school (think Missouri, Miss St, Iowa type school) they don't get that bump but instead get a 3 star rating.
I personally like the Texas rankings that Billy Luicci of TexAgs puts out. He's seen most of those kids play and not just a short highlight film, and his lists are pretty stable
Geoff Ketchum's Texas list of players is a joke. It changes often and for obvious reasons
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:28 pm to Big Kat
Peter Jenkins is a good example. He's ranked at 101. He tried to commit to A&M earlier this year but he didn't have a committable offer from Sherman so he committed to Mack Brown instead.
It's believed that A&M felt he was undersized and not as good as a LB prospect as Jordan Richmond, Troy Green, Danzel Devall, Lorenzo Phillips, or Tim Cole (who also eventually committed to Texas).
But the Texas commitment has Jenkins ranked high by Rivals
It's believed that A&M felt he was undersized and not as good as a LB prospect as Jordan Richmond, Troy Green, Danzel Devall, Lorenzo Phillips, or Tim Cole (who also eventually committed to Texas).
But the Texas commitment has Jenkins ranked high by Rivals
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:28 pm to The Sockster
think we have more of a need at WR than RB and thats where DB is getting recruited to play.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:29 pm to Big Kat
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Peter Jenkins is a good example. He's ranked at 101. He tried to commit to A&M earlier this year but he didn't have a committable offer from Sherman so he committed to Mack Brown instead.
Uh huh...... Do you realize how unbelievable that looks?
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:30 pm to Big Kat
I'm calling complete bull shite on that. Peter Jinkens could probably commit to any school he has an offer from on his list.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:32 pm to memphisplaya
Sherman isn't the recruiter that Brown is. I'm not saying that. But lots of kids will choose A&M over Texas. Jenkins was one of them. Not that hard to believe. It was early in the process and we are trying to get LB's that are higher on our board (Devall and Phillips).
It happens every year that some players can play anywhere they want and pick A&M over Texas (just not as much as the other way around)
It happens every year that some players can play anywhere they want and pick A&M over Texas (just not as much as the other way around)
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:34 pm to Big Kat
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I personally like the Texas rankings that Billy Luicci of TexAgs puts out. He's seen most of those kids play and not just a short highlight film, and his lists are pretty stable
Geoff Ketchum's Texas list of players is a joke. It changes often and for obvious reasons
Let me get this straight.. You think one side is impartial and yet you think the guy other guy is spot on.... If you haven't noticed yet, both pander to their readership and neither are really going to be unbiased. You are better off just looking at the national lists or even better get an aggregate rating. Ketch is a joke, but the think that Lucci isn't skewed is just deluding yourself.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:35 pm to gatordmb89
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I'm calling complete bull shite on that. Peter Jinkens could probably commit to any school he has an offer from on his list.
Could it be that you are over estimating how good Jenkins is because he is ranked high on Rivals? Our coaches were high on him but not as high as they were on Tim Cole, Devall and Phillips. We can't sign every player that comes along when you think you have a better option.
I'm not saying he's a bad player. Just that our coaches backed off of him to wai on others that aren't ranked as high by Rivals because they don't have a picture of an orange uterus next to their name
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:37 pm to Big Kat
I could care less what Rivals says. The kid plays well sideline to sideline and hits like a truck. Is he a little light ATM? Yes. However, I've a hard time believing he couldn't call up A&M and commit if he wanted to. Last time I checked, A&M was signing UT's leftovers, it wasn't the other way around.
Don't believe everything your "insiders" tell you.
Don't believe everything your "insiders" tell you.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:38 pm to laxtonto
Luicci's list stays much more constant. it doesn't change after a player commits to one school or another. It is surely to be slightly skewed because he probably watches more film on A&M targets than any other recruits.
On Ketchum's initial list of top 10 plyers (before commitments), 7 of them are now Ags. Only 1 of those players remains in his Top 20. It's that obvious.
On Ketchum's initial list of top 10 plyers (before commitments), 7 of them are now Ags. Only 1 of those players remains in his Top 20. It's that obvious.
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