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re: Thayer Evans Article on LSU and Randle and street agents
Posted on 3/15/11 at 1:18 pm to lsufanva
Posted on 3/15/11 at 1:18 pm to lsufanva
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You need to get more informed.LSU has already gone on record that CSS was paid in December.
If LSU paid CSS everything well before signing day then you are correct. LSU wouldn't have the same issues as Oregon.
Do you have a link which says that LSU paid everything to CSS before signing day? That will settle the issue once and for all.
As for the comment about the 25K paid by Oregon to CSS just after signing day is to cover future recruiting expenses....I'm not buying that story and I doubt the NCAA will either.
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Posted on 3/15/11 at 1:38 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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As for the comment about the 25K paid by Oregon to CSS just after signing day is to cover future recruiting expenses....I'm not buying that story and I doubt the NCAA will either.
You don't have to buy anything ... this is what the article says. link
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Last week, Oregon released an invoice for which it paid $25,000 to Lyles in March 2010 for a “2011 National Package" from his business, Complete Scouting Services. He submitted the invoice on Feb. 22, 2010, less than three weeks after Seastrunk, one of last year’s top high school running backs, signed with Oregon in a surprising decision.
This post was edited on 3/15/11 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/15/11 at 1:43 pm to amiznit
I already said he can't read. The last sentence to him is more important than the one preceding it. Thayer did a good job twisting words. This texas idiot obviously fell for it.
This post was edited on 3/15/11 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 3/15/11 at 4:09 pm to LSUintheNW
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I already said he can't read. The last sentence to him is more important than the one preceding it. Thayer did a good job twisting words. This texas idiot obviously fell for it.
Look.....Lyles almost never leaves the state of Texas. But, right after a prized recruit signs with Oregon in a surprise move, Oregon pays him about 5 times what a normal recruiting service gets for a service that Lyles is woefully incapable of providing.
We'll see if the NCAA hammers Oregon or not.....I believe they will.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 4:21 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
You can think what you want. We only know what has been said so far. You want links from other people but you will throw statements out there that you can't back up factually.
Link motherfricker....
eta...Oregon paid more than 5 last year too. LSU has shown receipts of more than 10k. Who are you to say what is normal and what isn't? Show me in the rules where it says what amounts are and aren't allowed? No need to respond til you have all that for us. :waitingonpinsandneedles:
eta2....the other thread we are hammering you on just showed Udub paying 25k to a company.
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for a service that Lyles is woefully incapable of providing.
Link motherfricker....
eta...Oregon paid more than 5 last year too. LSU has shown receipts of more than 10k. Who are you to say what is normal and what isn't? Show me in the rules where it says what amounts are and aren't allowed? No need to respond til you have all that for us. :waitingonpinsandneedles:
eta2....the other thread we are hammering you on just showed Udub paying 25k to a company.
This post was edited on 3/15/11 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 3/15/11 at 6:23 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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But, right after a prized recruit signs with Oregon in a surprise move, Oregon pays him about 5 times what a normal recruiting service gets for a service that Lyles is woefully incapable of providing.
prove it was for lache
short of lyles or lache admitting it, how can the NCAA prove it?
hell, the NCAA can't even subpoena records. all they can do is interview people. and if lyles tells them to frick off, THEN what can they do? nothing
Posted on 3/15/11 at 6:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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prove it was for lache
He can't. I am still waiting on him to get back to me with those rule violations. I mean if it is as simple as he makes he should have something for us....right?
He wants others to provide links but he will run his mouth because you know.....he's got a sense of what happened.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 6:46 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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But, right after a prized recruit signs with Oregon in a surprise move
What surprise?
Let's see UTw has a QB coaching the RB's without any success. LSU's great Crowton Offense is tanking + a successful RB coach leaves LSU to become a HC. USC has the coaches and "O" but Pete leaves and the Kiffin Gang shows up. AU decides to go in a different direction (QB P4P or other debatable reasions) and stops recruiting Lache. So there you have it Oregon was either his first or his fifth choice depending on if you think Chip Kelly orchestrated everything above to get Lache.
But just in case you still believe Lache choosing Oregon was a last minute surprise read my post below. Should I go further back to prove UO was not a johnny come lately college on Lache's list.
re: Seastrunk and Reed at Oregon right now (Posted on 11/1/09 at 12:26 a.m. to wryder1)
Oregon could be the place where both could have a lot of playing time as true freshmen. Like I've said before Oregon is a bigger player than most think, IMO.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 6:55 pm to TutHillTiger
Wanted to post so that I can show my grandkids one day I was part of an epic thread!! 
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:09 pm to pfunkTiger
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He can't. I am still waiting on him to get back to me with those rule violations. I mean if it is as simple as he makes he should have something for us....right? He wants others to provide links but he will run his mouth because you know.....he's got a sense of what happened.
I'll admit, I don't have the NCAA rulebook memorized....but when USA Today says:
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LSU would be guilty of breaking NCAA recruiting rules if Lyles helped steer Randle to LSU.
......I'll take their word over yours.
Again, form the same article, does this sound like the work of an unbiased, objective recruiting analyst providing typical recruiting services or does this sound like someone "steering" a kid to a school:
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"Now, that's a funny guy right there," Randle said of Lyles. "That guy right there, he can eat. He knows about every restaurant in Baton Rouge, and he introduced me to all of them. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't know anything about the food places down there.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:18 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
You post that link and try to prove a point? 
All he did was reiterate Thayer's article and LSU's response. That guy did absolutely no research into the situation
Nice try at least
Here's a tip for ya: just stop posting because you are looking more and more clueless each time
All he did was reiterate Thayer's article and LSU's response. That guy did absolutely no research into the situation Nice try at least
Here's a tip for ya: just stop posting because you are looking more and more clueless each timeThis post was edited on 3/15/11 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:19 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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eta...Oregon paid more than 5 last year too. LSU has shown receipts of more than 10k. Who are you to say what is normal and what isn't?
CNNSI
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a longtime provider of recruiting video services -- who counted Oregon as a client before his company was absorbed by video giant XOS Digital -- said the $25,000 payment seems high. "For $25,000, it better provide a hell of a lot," Scouting Evaluation Association founder Dick Lascola told SI.com late Thursday. "That's an exorbitant amount of money to pay for something."
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Lyles did not return calls from SI.com. His Web site features a "JUCO price list" that offers videos for a particular state for $3,000. A multi-state region costs $5,000. A "trifecta package" that includes any three states costs $8,000, while a "national package" costs $15,000. No single service is priced at $25,000.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:22 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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You post that link and try to prove a point? All he did was reiterate Thayer's article and LSU's response. That guy did absolutely no research into the situation
You have admitted that multiple sports writers, who do this for a living, have all stated that Lyles steering players would break NCAA rules. Those articles are linked in this thread. You chose to laugh off their conclusions by recklessly charging that they have done "no research into the situation."
I guess you can believe whatever you want.....
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:23 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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Lascola has worked in the scouting business providing film to schools for more than 30 years, and he said Thursday that he had never heard of Lyles.
He's worked in the scouting business more than 30 years and had never heard of Lyles?
And now you're switching it back to Oregon, so LSU is guilty by association right? You have done absolutely nothing to prove that LSU is guilty of breaking any NCAA rule, done nothing to prove LSU paid Lyles personally. We are believing what we read in that LSU paid for a recruiting service that EVERY major college does
This post was edited on 3/15/11 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:27 pm to GeauxAggie972
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And now you're switching it back to Oregon, so LSU is guilty by association right?
The NCAA thought that was a possibility....that is why they interviewed Randle specifically about Lyles. Just a few posts up, Randle admits Lyles took him to pretty much every restaurant in Baton Rouge. Obviously, that is an exaggeration, but it is safe to say he took him out to eat a lot. Does Lyles do that with every single recruit in the country? Honestly, does that sound like something that is crucial to collecting raw data for a legit, objective recruiting service?
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:32 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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You have done absolutely nothing to prove that LSU is guilty of breaking any NCAA rule, done nothing to prove LSU paid Lyles personally.
Of course I haven't proven that....how could I? I don't have the proof in my possession. I never claimed to have it. What I do have is the word of 2 Texas high school football coaches I know very well who have talked about Lyles being a sleezeball for many years.
Being a Texas diehard, when Major Applewhite went public a while back and called Lyles a "Notorious Street Agent" that reinforced it for me.
This is my best guess. I am convinced Oregon will get hammered and, like I said before, if LSU paid Lyles after signing day, I think LSU will get hit hard as well.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:41 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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He can't. I am still waiting on him to get back to me with those rule violations. I mean if it is as simple as he makes he should have something for us....right?
From the other thread:
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Yahoo’s Robinson, who broke the documented payment from the University of Oregon to Lyles, wrote on March 3 of the possible ramification of that transaction: If Lyles and Flenory aided in or were involved in any way in the recruitment of student athletes to Oregon, they would be classified as boosters by the NCAA, and any payment to them from the school would be considered a violation of Bylaw 13. Bylaw 13 prohibits boosters from directing a recruit to a school.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 9:59 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
Are you saying Will pushed Lache away from UTw and that is why you are here?
Just a reminder Lache was not UT months before Will showed up. Please read and then go away.
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re: Couple of things (Posted on 5/12/08 at 7:14 p.m. to Prominentwon)
This is why UT fans think Lache will be a Horn. The information whores only want to use Lache to make money and in the process give UT fans false hope, which breeds hate toward Lache. Seems this guy finally gets the scout writer to admit the truth.
Go to this LINK [link=(mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&am...0&t=2386843)]LINK[/link]
quote:
Scout writer:
"I wouldn't say that he prefers LSU, but I think the fact that he has family in Louisiana and that LSU is fresh off of a national title help."
"LSU and Texas look like the teams to beat."
TempleTiger1:
"Is that just wishful thinking for the UT fans sake?"
Scout writer:
"Lache prefers LSU....he was decked out in LSU garb and as he left the combine threw up the #1 sign and said national champs to me....his family is from Louisiana and I think he's smitten by them....if he doesn't go to LSU its because they don't want him"
Just a reminder Lache was not UT months before Will showed up. Please read and then go away.
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re: Couple of things (Posted on 5/12/08 at 7:14 p.m. to Prominentwon)
This is why UT fans think Lache will be a Horn. The information whores only want to use Lache to make money and in the process give UT fans false hope, which breeds hate toward Lache. Seems this guy finally gets the scout writer to admit the truth.
Go to this LINK [link=(mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&am...0&t=2386843)]LINK[/link]
quote:
Scout writer:
"I wouldn't say that he prefers LSU, but I think the fact that he has family in Louisiana and that LSU is fresh off of a national title help."
"LSU and Texas look like the teams to beat."
TempleTiger1:
"Is that just wishful thinking for the UT fans sake?"
Scout writer:
"Lache prefers LSU....he was decked out in LSU garb and as he left the combine threw up the #1 sign and said national champs to me....his family is from Louisiana and I think he's smitten by them....if he doesn't go to LSU its because they don't want him"
Posted on 3/15/11 at 10:03 pm to Born to be a Tiger
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Are you saying Will pushed Lache away from UTw and that is why you are here?
That is not what I am saying. When it became clear that Lache was affiliated with Lyles, Texas dropped all interest.
For all I know, Texas was never in Lache's top 5. That really isn't the point of any of this discussion. In all honesty, I think a lot of this has gone over your head.
Posted on 3/16/11 at 1:11 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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For all I know, Texas was never in Lache's top 5. That really isn't the point of any of this discussion. In all honesty, I think a lot of this has gone over your head.
There's a difference between going over our head and us not taking your word for it. You pretty much jumped in here saying LSU was going to get sanctions because we used a recruiting service that employed Lyles. Now you've backed off that and hunkered down on Oregon. I think the big problem here is that you are coming across as too emotional on this issue, making it hard to trust your objectivity.
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