re: Thayer Evans Article on LSU and Randle and street agents

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So why did Major keep calling Lache and keep sending messages to Lache even a year after the so called Will visit to UTw?

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It could be one of any number of reasons. I don't know and neither do you. I do know 2 facts: #1 Applewhite is publicly on the record calling Lyles notorious street agent and #2 Texas doesn't sign kids affiliated with Lyles. The #s are on my side and prove me right.

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UTw coaches knew Lache would be a hard pull

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It is a battle to get any elite RB. Look, you are overly hung up on the Lache/Texas angle of all of this. Until someone can produce a payment record of Texas paying a CSS invoice (which will never be found), this is a wasted part of the discussion.

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Thayer Evans is a joke and a hack How can anyone take this guy serious?

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Oregon admits to paying Lyles but refuses to produce what they bought. The NCAA is investigating multiple kids Lyles handled. This isn't a fantasy in Thayer's head......there is tangible stuff here.

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it's not a regulated market, technically they could pay him 25K for a video of a kid jumping up and down on a pogo stick

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Come on, you get the overall point here. If it is discovered that Lyles was give 25K and produced no real recruiting analysis or services for Oregon other than getting Lache to sign, you really don't think the NCAA will give a damn? Really? Hell....the invoice specifically details what was bought. If the items detailed on the invoice were never provided, that is a fraudulent use of public funds. People could be criminally accountable. This is a big deal relative to government acquisition practices and standards.

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Even what you did show me is what rule could possibly be broken, not what has be broken. As of now nothing has been broken and there isn't a link you can give us that says otherwise.

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Let me get this straight....you have been reading this entire thread with the expectation that I would have 100% conclusive proof that Oregon and or LSU violated an NCAA rule? Have I ever claimed to have that? This is all about our opinions, our conjecture and trying to make our best assessments based on the info we have. Did you go after everyone in the near endless number of Cam threads by saying, "HAVE YOU SEEN 100% PROOF THAT HIS DAD GOT ANY MONEY? HAVE YOU SEEN 100% PROOF THAT CAM KNEW WHAT HIS FATHER WAS DOING?"

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Your issue with it was the amount.

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A lot of industry experts say the amount was high. Still, it is silly to compare the top of the line product from an established, multi-employee industry leader to a newly created one-man company (Lyles) who only interacts with Texas kids but somehow is providing analysis and video on kids from multiple states.

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Do I think it's shady, probably but until you show me the almighty Texas program is 100% clean no one will care how much you want to push this

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I have to prove Texas is 100% clean before I can have a valid point about Lyles and CSS? Wow.....

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The point is.....YOU are on an LSU recruiting board saying things that no one knows anything about for sure. It is all speculation on what has happened. But no....the smart Texas guy who knows coaches (could be dirty) and says this is what's going on so we all have to just accept it.

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I have never said I know everything with 100% certainty. I feel strongly I am correct about Lyles but that is as far as it goes.

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#1 Applewhite is publicly on the record calling Lyles notorious street agent and #2 Texas doesn't sign kids affiliated with Lyles. The #s are on my side and prove me right.

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So why did Major keep calling Lache and keep sending messages to Lache even a year after the so called Will visit to UTw?

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It could be one of any number of reasons. I don't know

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Clearly...you know dick.

I'm not following his logic there either.

Esp if they kept calling after thinking Lyles was involved in the recruitment

No doubt Lyles is widely disliked in Texas tho. I don't think anyone who goes into the home state generating tape for out of state schools will have a swell reputation there.

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No doubt Lyles is widely disliked in Texas tho. I don't think anyone who goes into the home state generating tape for out of state schools will have a swell reputation there.

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And that is what this is about. Texas is pissed because they are being messed with. Like that?

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That helps out LSU's cause a lot. I guess it isn't everything or else......why did the NCAA still send investigators to talk to Randle specifically about Lyles if they knew when the invoice was paid?

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Who knows y the NCAA does anything, not me... But considering the Asst AD was quoted yest saying LSU hasnt been contacted by the NCAA regarding Lyles' services nor Randle, u r making a huge assumption w ur question.

Look, I don't like the Lyles/street agent stuff either but I do like LSU's position w the NCAA a lot better than that of UO w Lyles. I also like LSU's position there better than ur beloved Horns position w the Cleve Bryant issues. And if u think Texas doesn't sign kids w ties to Lyles, uve got ur head in the sand.

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considering the Asst AD was quoted yest saying LSU hasnt been contacted by the NCAA regarding Lyles' services nor Randle

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Thought I saw that somewhere, couldn't find it for him. He will go on and on about something til he is shown a link. In other words, he will spread lies and rumors which flames the board and disrespects LSU recruiting.

LSUintheNW: until you show me the almighty Texas program is 100% clean no one will care how much you want to push this
Dr Drunkenstein: I have to prove Texas is 100% clean before I can have a valid point about Lyles and CSS? Wow.....
LSUintheNW: Where did I say that you illiterate texass?

Man, I just don't get you.


As for Applewhite staying in touch with Lache......first off, I have posted links for every assertion I have put forth. I'd like to see a link that Applewhite stayed in touch with Lache.

Still, it wouldn't surprise me if it was true. He is very talented. Texas needs RBs. Perhaps Texas was trying to get him to stop interacting with Lyles? Who knows......surely, none of us know. Coaches/Recruiters build up bonds through the process. Since Applewhite has said publicly that Lyles is a known street agent, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was trying to do the right thing by the kid and get Lyles out of the picture. Do I know that is what happened for certain? Of course not.......yet, it is the only thing which makes sense when you consider Applewhite's public comments about Lyles and when you consider the fact that Texas absolutely does not sign kids associated with Lyles......and for the umpteenth time.....the record & the #s back me up on this.

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when you consider the fact that Texas absolutely does not sign kids associated with Lyles

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please take your head out of the sand!

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you consider the fact that Texas absolutely does not sign kids associated with Lyles......and for the umpteenth time.....the record & the #s back me up on this.


I told you to stop claiming absolutes. All I know is that at least one UTw player was associated with Will and if you would do research you might even find more. You see Will at least had a 7 on 7 Texas team that traveled around playing in tournaments with a QB by the name of Conner Wood. So I guess your source is either telling you a lie or not really in the know at UTw. I hope you did not pay money for that information. How many times do I have to put you in a "time out."



Sorry fellow Tiger fans I just can't let him/her spreading false information about UTw.

Agree with you completely. He couldn't even stick to the info that was out there. He wants to ad lib while conveying the message that THEY wouldn't dare deal with Lyles when it's not true. It all comes down to outsiders taking players from the state and they aren't happy about it. They're going to point fingers while trying to act innocent.