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re: Texas State Law's Impact on Recruiting
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:33 pm to The_Pistol
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:33 pm to The_Pistol
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Deranged killings will still occur. One of the witnesses of the VA Tech massacre seems to agree:
i don't understand this argument, Va Tech was a "gun free zone". They did not allow concealed hand guns on campus. Didn't really seem to deter that one guy.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:34 pm to tigerguy121
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tigerguy121
Whoops. You got me.
Add to that post: ...or Mettenburger never would have chosen LSU.

Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:37 pm to The_Pistol
This is a bikram yoga stretch
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:40 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Meanwhile cities with restrictive hand gun laws like DC and Chicago are much safer.
So you're arguing that more handgun accessibility for students on campus is a selling point for recruits? Why do you suppose Miles, the President of UT, the Chancellor at Oklahoma amongst others all oppose it?
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:42 pm to The_Pistol
Y'all realize that you have to have a CCL to carry a gun on campus if this law were to pass. I don't know many students that have one. I am the only one I know of out of my many friends that has one. And I don't even carry that often
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:47 pm to The_Pistol
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if he failed a test
if his girlfriend dumped him
if he's an angry drunk
if his roomate outed him from the closet before he was ready
if he didn't take his lithium
if he didn't get in the right frat
if the right frat hazed the frick out of him
if his all-nighters caused a sleep-deprived insanity
the list goes on..
Do you guys think this law means everyone will just be given a gun? To get a carry permit, first of all you have to be 21, next you have to take safety courses and pass a test. There is nothing stoping college kids from getting a concealed carry permit now. The only thing this law would do is allow those with permits to carry to gun on campus LEGALLY. That's it. It doesn't make guns easy to get. If you think allowing people with permits to carry guns on campus will lead to more shooting because of the above reason's you are believing in unicorns/ Someone unstable enough to go on a shooting rampage because his girl friend dumped him or he he was drunk, is not going to be stopped because the campus is a gun free zone. That's just silly. You don't need a permit to buy a gun.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:49 pm to H-Town Tiger
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It doesn't make guns easy to get
guns are incredibly easy to get
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:50 pm to The_Pistol
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if his girlfriend dumped him
if he's an angry drunk
thank God this isn't going on in Florida

Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:52 pm to The_Pistol
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So you're arguing that more handgun accessibility for students on campus is a selling point for recruits?
No, I'm arguing restricting guns has proven to make things less safe. Why it would be an issue to recruits either way is a complete mystery to me. You are just posting about it because its in the news today. By signing day 2012 who will know or care?
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Why do you suppose Miles, the President of UT, the Chancellor at Oklahoma amongst others all oppose it?
I have no fricking clue, I've never met any of these men so how could I know why they think what they do?
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:53 pm to Analyze That
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guns are incredibly easy to get
exactly, so allowing people with a CCL to carry a gun on campus will have no impact on that.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 6:06 pm to The_Pistol
I think you're going to see a lot of gangsta type kids with guns on campus.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 6:06 pm to The_Pistol
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Immediately after the Va Tech massacre by a deranged gunman
Students and professors who were on campus when it happened said they wished they had been able to carry so one of them could have kept the shooter from killing so many people.
It is a serious discussion that might affect a few students but the majority will not care about it.
Getting the permit is not an easy chore. It takes some commitment and some money to get the training.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 6:23 pm to LSU NO Tigah
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I think you're going to see a lot of gangsta type kids with guns on campus.
Gangstas don't buy guns through legal sellers.
Most of the people who carry under the old law in Texas are more right wingers who are looking to protect their property.
They buy a Glock, take the training course and carry.
The first shooting that occured after the law was passd happened right in front of my offce at Mockingbird and Stemmons. One driver passed the other, clipping the other driver's mirror. When they stopped at the red light (Mockingbird & Stemmons)the driver who was paassed and had the broken mirror got out of his car and started punching the other driver in the face. The driver who clipped the mirror could not drive away because other cars were stopped at the light in front of him. He reached down, pulled out his pistol and shot the guy. Charges were filed against the shoter but he was found not guilty of attempted murder and had acted in self defense.
The shooter was a small business owner who had money and product in his vehicle.
Young gangstas don't take shooting coures, they learn to shoot from an OG.

This post was edited on 2/21/11 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 2/21/11 at 6:30 pm to H-Town Tiger
yes it would, more guns on campus is not safer
Posted on 2/21/11 at 6:54 pm to Analyze That
Yes, more guns for more peace.
Now we have new law for guns in church...
can't tell you how many shoot outs we've been having during the benediction...
Now we have new law for guns in church...
can't tell you how many shoot outs we've been having during the benediction...
Posted on 2/22/11 at 5:03 pm to H-Town Tiger
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To get a carry permit, first of all you have to be 21, next you have to take safety courses and pass a test.
This means that probably only seniors, & upper classpersons, that have a personal carry permit could carry on campus. Most freshmen, sophmores, juniors would be to young to get a permit.
The OP was asking would it hurt recruiting. Depends on where the recruit grew up. Some neighborhoods hear gunshots weekly. Some never.
Some parents may feel that their child will be safer on campus versus their old neighborhool.
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