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Texas State Law's Impact on Recruiting
Posted on 2/21/11 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 2/21/11 at 2:54 pm
Immediately after the Va Tech massacre by a deranged gunman, Les Miles was amongst those who spoke out against proposed legislation in the Louisiana House of Representatives that would allow students to legally carry a concealed weapon on campus.
USA Today - Les Miles Concerned about Handguns on Campus
It seems that the Texas State legislature is poised to pass a similar bill into law.
Texas Concealed Handgun Bill
Do you think that having a campus where concealed weapons are allowed would make a recruit think twice about attending a Texas university? Perhaps, as the bill intends, it will make Texas universities a safer place and make them more attractive to recruits.
What say you?
USA Today - Les Miles Concerned about Handguns on Campus
It seems that the Texas State legislature is poised to pass a similar bill into law.
Texas Concealed Handgun Bill
Do you think that having a campus where concealed weapons are allowed would make a recruit think twice about attending a Texas university? Perhaps, as the bill intends, it will make Texas universities a safer place and make them more attractive to recruits.
What say you?
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Posted on 2/21/11 at 2:58 pm to The_Pistol
Texas will ALWAYS be one of the Top 5 most attractive schools to attend as far as recruits. Nothing, no gun laws, no new head coach, bad previous seasons, etc etc etc, will change that.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 3:01 pm to paperstreet
It will make Texas look like heaven to gun totin', knuckle dragging morons.
Safer?
Ask the guy who crawled to the top of the UT tower 30 yrs ago...
Safer?
Ask the guy who crawled to the top of the UT tower 30 yrs ago...
Posted on 2/21/11 at 3:05 pm to nitwit
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Ask the guy who crawled to the top of the UT tower 30 yrs ago...
How about the guy that ran through the campus and fired the gun and then hid in a building a couple months ago?
Posted on 2/21/11 at 3:07 pm to GeauxAggie972
Page 1!
This could be 10 pages of 2nd Amendment argument
This could be 10 pages of 2nd Amendment argument
Posted on 2/21/11 at 3:18 pm to Big Kat
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This could be 10 pages of 2nd Amendment argument
N'ah. This is the recruiting board, not political. Surely this thread will stay on-topic.
Personally, this law would make a difference in my school choice if I were a highly touted QB. I am sure that immediately following the Auburn game in '94, Jamie Howard singlehandedly turned perfectly rational people into homicidal maniacs. I would not have felt safe on campus on Monday. Even if I were also packing, I would surely be outnumbered.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 3:52 pm to The_Pistol
Never go to a party with metal detectors. Sure it feels safe inside, but what about everyone waiting outside with guns. They know you ain't got one. - Chris Rock
Posted on 2/21/11 at 3:58 pm to The_Pistol
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Personally, this law would make a difference in my school choice
Really?
And to a certain extent, couldn't you argue that it could also possibly hurt recruiting for kids who like to carry weapons. Maybe they are former gang bangers who don't want to be without a piece because they are always looking for the payback from wayback or maybe they are a good ol' boy who likes to have their shotguns for huntin' season.
Either way, they would all most likely live off campus where this wouldn't effect them. And it's not like the cops are searching people who are coming on to campus. If somebody wants to show up to school with a gun, they probably will.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:35 pm to The_Pistol
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Les Miles was amongst those who spoke out against proposed legislation in the Louisiana House of Representatives that would allow students to legally carry a concealed weapon on campus.
BOO
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I know that firearms do not belong on campus. To allow firearms on campus would be to introduce an element of risk that could compromise all that is good about a university setting.
ok, Les.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:36 pm to Suntiger
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Really?
So do you think that of all the political issues, Les Miles chose to speak up on this topic simply because it's dear to his liberal, gun-controlling heart?
I think he knows that it's difficult to sit in a parent's home and say that LSU's campus is a great, safe place for their child knowing that students are allowed to carry handguns.
Parents do not think to themselves, "Oh, wonderful. I'm glad that Junior will be allowed to protect himself from other gun-toters on campus."
I think that Texas will be at a disadvantage in many recruiting cases if/when this passes. It may be enough to sway a kid who is on the fence.
Yes, you could argue that this law may be a recruiting advantage, but I don't think that's true in the vast majority of cases. And Les Miles knows it.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:38 pm to The_Pistol
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Personally, this law would make a difference in my school choice if I were a highly touted QB. I am sure that immediately following the Auburn game in '94, Jamie Howard singlehandedly turned perfectly rational people into homicidal maniacs. I would not have felt safe on campus on Monday. Even if I were also packing, I would surely be outnumbered.
I sure hope this is sarcasm
Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:41 pm to nitwit
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It will make Texas look like heaven to gun totin', knuckle dragging morons.
gee, that's funny, that's what they said with the law passed to allow citizens to carry concealed weapons was passed. In an odd and I'm sure completely unrelated development, crime is down since then.
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Ask the guy who crawled to the top of the UT tower 30 yrs ago...
that was 1966, what does that have to do with something being safer or not safer today? Do you feel American Airlines is not as safe because of 9-11?
Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:42 pm to The_Pistol
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Yes, you could argue that this law may be a recruiting advantage, but I don't think that's true in the vast majority of cases. And Les Miles knows it.
I seriously doubt that any parent or potential college athlete makes their choice of school based on whether the campus is a gun free zone or not.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:44 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I sure hope this is sarcasm
Yes, that was a joke. I don't honestly think Howard was actually in any danger.
But I do think that legalizing handguns on campus would make it less safe. And I do think that legalizing them would deter some parents from endorsing a school to their child.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 4:58 pm to The_Pistol
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But I do think that legalizing handguns on campus would make it less safe for the thugs who already carry guns on campus and for anyone who wants to pull a VT-style mass shooting in the future
FIFY
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:01 pm to Suntiger
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I seriously doubt that any parent or potential college athlete makes their choice of school based on whether the campus is a gun free zone or not.
I seriously doubt that anyone declines to buy a house because there are cobwebs on the ceiling fan. But the fact is, when you're trying to sell a house, you make look as nice as you can. You don't know how a buyer's mind forms an impression of your house.
The same goes for a school. If you're on the fence, and you are lining up all the pros and cons, feeling safe and secure is a big one. If your neighborhood has a gun problem and that weighs heavily on your mind every day, it's likely that will weigh heavily on how you rank a school.
Even if it's not an issue, other recruiters will try to make it an issue. Don't you think that if you were recruiting a kid against Southern Miss, you might casually bring up the subject of handgun violence or security against it? Regardless of the fact that the incident happened off-campus, recruiters would likely try to use that as an edge. It's building a castle of perception one grain of sand at a time.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:02 pm to The_Pistol
To me this makes in the moment rage, more dangerous... a kid could start shooting if he failed a test
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:18 pm to Analyze That
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if he failed a test
if his girlfriend dumped him
if he's an angry drunk
if his roomate outed him from the closet before he was ready
if he didn't take his lithium
if he didn't get in the right frat
if the right frat hazed the frick out of him
if his all-nighters caused a sleep-deprived insanity
the list goes on...
College is not the right place for concealed weapons. People assume that handguns will protect them, but they won't. Deranged killings will still occur. One of the witnesses of the VA Tech massacre seems to agree:
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"People tell me that if they would have been there, they would have shot that guy. That offends me," Goddard said. "People want to be the hero, I understand that. They play video games and they think they understand the reality. It's nothing like that." - Colin Goddard, survivor of VA Tech massacre
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:28 pm to The_Pistol
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N'ah. This is the recruiting board, not political. Surely this thread will stay on-topic.
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College is not the right place for concealed weapons. People assume that handguns will protect them, but they won't. Deranged killings will still occur. One of the witnesses of the VA Tech massacre seems to agree:
Posted on 2/21/11 at 5:32 pm to The_Pistol
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on't you think that if you were recruiting a kid against Southern Miss, you might casually bring up the subject of handgun violence or security against it? Regardless of the fact that the incident happened off-campus, recruiters would likely try to use that as an edge. It's building a castle of perception one grain of sand at a time.
Right, because you know crime is not an issue anywhere else, and states with concealed hand gun laws have all become shooting galleries. Meanwhile cities with restrictive hand gun laws like DC and Chicago are much safer.
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