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Star Barbe Pitcher (Jack Walker)in Transfer portal
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:06 am
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:06 am
Jack Walker
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 11:51 am
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:27 am to Yippie_Ky_yae
Pretty sure the only strikes he could manage to throw got shelled.
But maybe they can fix him.
But maybe they can fix him.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:32 am to Hester Carries
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Pretty sure the only strikes he could manage to throw got shelled.
But maybe they can fix him.
i think he has high potential and would be a great get but he didnt throw many strikes was his problem. 13 walks in 14 innings.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:34 am to Yippie_Ky_yae
Going to LSU I'd bet money on it. Still has a very high ceiling no reason not to take him.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:39 am to deuce985
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Going to LSU I'd bet money on it. Still has a very high ceiling no reason not to take him.
Pretty sure he was a big LSU fan growing up. Previous staff did not recruit him. Might be worth a shot. Change of scenery and new pitching coach might be what he needs.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:52 am to deuce985
I'm leaning to this, too, contrary to what alot of people believe. It's a perfect fit for Jack and LSU. Jack gets to come home, tighten up the screws, and dial back in. LSU gets a pitcher with starter potential stuff. I know he struggled at Miss St, but I'm not worried about that. Sign me up.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:55 am to Yippie_Ky_yae
This board had some people freaking out that he was going to MSU and not LSU 

Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:56 am to Yippie_Ky_yae
Was he that heavy in HS?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:00 am to Damathe
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Was he that heavy in HS?
he was 190 in HS. but in general you want to get to the 3x weight vs height to maximize momemetum potential. Especially once the deadlift gets to around 450-500lbs and you get the reverse lunge numbers up big time.
after that is when you have to start getting more advanced with training specific deficiets along the strength curve and weighted ball programs etc.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:04 am to Damathe
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Was he that heavy in HS?
Not sure, but he doesn't have the classic frame of a power pitcher. As far as pitchers go, he's on the shorter side (sub 6') and a bit squatty. I wouldn't say he was overweight or anything like that. Just not that tall, lean build that we saw in guys like Kevin Gausman or Aaron Nola.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:12 am to Tigerfan1274
He'd be more of a Marceaux. For a comparison this season, go look at the Rajcic kid at UCLA.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:15 am to DRock88
yea jack was 5'11 190 at barbe, he is up to 210 now according to MSU.
but like i said....now a days you want your pitchers to get to that 3x height weight range as that has been shown to be optimal for momemetum potential.
but like i said....now a days you want your pitchers to get to that 3x height weight range as that has been shown to be optimal for momemetum potential.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:17 am to lsu777
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you want your pitchers to get to that 3x height weight range as that has been shown to be optimal for momemetum potential
Can you give a little more detail on that? I'm interested but quite understanding what you mean.
ETA: Mainly on the ratio part.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:19 am to deuce985
quote:Based on what specifically?
Still has a very high ceiling
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:28 am to lsu777
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Previous staff did not recruit him.
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he struggled at Miss St
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he didnt throw many strikes. 13 walks in 14 innings.
quote:Ummm . . why waste a spot?
jack was 5'11 190 at barbe, he is up to 210 now according to MSU.
We can't find a pitcher over 6' who hasn't struggled throwing strikes in college?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:28 am to Yippie_Ky_yae
Wasn't that good at MSU, I don't know what people are basing potential upon.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:30 am to ProjectP2294
so do you follow dr Josh heenan creator of the 90 mph formula and owner of Adnvanced therpy and performance?
he has a lot of info and studies on it.
essentially if you can meet the following metrics, then you have the potential to throw 90/100.
now that is not to say you cant throw those speeds without those metrics but you are at an increased risk of ucl injury. Especially when it comes to the reverse lunge and chin up numbers. those 2 are the biggest indicators that you are not stable in the positions you need to be stable in to hit 90+ and remain healthy.
the momentum potential comes in from the point of being able to generate enough momentum without relying on crazy amounts of arm speed to get you over the 90 mark.
you will see tons of guys who can meet the other metrics, except the body weight, who cant throw 90+. Its because they can not generate the momentum to the plate needed.
follow and listen to ATP and Heenan on instagram. FTR Cressey uses pretty much same formula and Kyle of driveline uses alot of the info too.
Cressey and Heenan use weighted balls too but rely on the other items first and use the weighted balls more to clean up mechanics, specifically on layback.
other good ones that are outside the mainstream are bill miller, zach dechant and even top velocity(he is good but a chode for the shite he pulled on kyle from driveline)
he has a lot of info and studies on it.
essentially if you can meet the following metrics, then you have the potential to throw 90/100.


now that is not to say you cant throw those speeds without those metrics but you are at an increased risk of ucl injury. Especially when it comes to the reverse lunge and chin up numbers. those 2 are the biggest indicators that you are not stable in the positions you need to be stable in to hit 90+ and remain healthy.
the momentum potential comes in from the point of being able to generate enough momentum without relying on crazy amounts of arm speed to get you over the 90 mark.
you will see tons of guys who can meet the other metrics, except the body weight, who cant throw 90+. Its because they can not generate the momentum to the plate needed.
follow and listen to ATP and Heenan on instagram. FTR Cressey uses pretty much same formula and Kyle of driveline uses alot of the info too.
Cressey and Heenan use weighted balls too but rely on the other items first and use the weighted balls more to clean up mechanics, specifically on layback.
other good ones that are outside the mainstream are bill miller, zach dechant and even top velocity(he is good but a chode for the shite he pulled on kyle from driveline)
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:34 am to lsu777
Good deal, thank you. I don't get to read up on this stuff as much as I used to, but it fascinates me.
ETA: I will be looking up the names you gave, outside of Cressey and Driveline, who I'm already familiar with.
ETA: I will be looking up the names you gave, outside of Cressey and Driveline, who I'm already familiar with.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
He was the national high school pitcher of the year. He was 13-0 with a 0.48 ERA. Sure, he may just go down as a good high school pitcher. But, the talent is undeniable. He threw 14 innings at Miss St, on a team that was flat every game, every week. I'm not making any assumptions based on that.
Would I bend over backwards for him or pass up a guy with more college experience for him? No, but if the dialogue is there, I'm not turning him away.
Would I bend over backwards for him or pass up a guy with more college experience for him? No, but if the dialogue is there, I'm not turning him away.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We can't find a pitcher over 6' who hasn't struggled throwing strikes in college?
yall should stop focusing on the 6' thing in general, doesnt mean that much anymore.
as far as the throwing strikes....100% agree but to be fair, msu in general struggled with that this year and walker has less walks his whole senior year in over 100 innings than he did in the 13 this year.
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Wasn't that good at MSU, I don't know what people are basing potential upon.
mainly on what he was coming out of HS.
i would love to see him at LSU and get it together, but ill be honest, prolly not the best thing for him nor lsu at this time.
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