re: Spenser Sanders to Ole Miss

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Kiffin told all of them it will be an open QB competition and each has the same opportunity.

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So, in other words, Kiffin told him what he wanted to hear while Kelly told him the truth about his situation even though both circumstances are the same.

Not totally. Not for 2023, but yes in 2024. That would put Nuss nearly 3 years ahead of him (2 years in BK’s system). That is huge advantage. Especially when you are running a scout team again and getting very little development. As I stated the QB situation is cemented for 2023, as it should be. JD5 won the starting gig last spring. I highly doubt Nuss can nor has the opportunity to unseat him of QB1.

I mentioned the TCU thing in previous message. TCU was wanting him very bad. Their OC had just left. No one knew who was coming in, and sometimes players /coaches don’t gel well. He definitely does not hate LSU. He has been raised around the stadium and program. His sister is still here. He had other family here. It is all about the opportunity to play and an offense that fits your specific talents. JD5 surges in Denbrock’s system. I don’t think he would do as well in an air raid style offense. BK never told him to move along. He told him the truth and then tried to recruit him out of the portal. Being a starter next year nor NIL money was part of his decision. Two SEC schools offered a massive NIL deal to get him. Which is BS because the schools are not supposed to be involved in NIL… but that’s a different issue.

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Not sure I follow you on “both circumstance are the same?” One is an opportunity this year the other is no opportunity this year.

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They are the same because the “opportunity” to compete at Ole Miss is no different than at LSU. Howard is not ready to start. He will not beat out Sanders and Dart, just as he wouldn’t beat out Daniels and Nuss. The only difference is that Kelly was honest with Howard about his lack of readiness while Kiffin fed into Howard’s impatience and lack of self-awareness.

Ok but it still looks like Howard coukd be QB 3 at Ole Miss. If Sanders wins the job for this year, Dart can’t transfer and play immediately so I doubt he leaves. That still puts Dart as solidly the number 2 QB due to experience (unless Howard somehow turns it around and shows out which is highly unlikely). Sanders has to leave after this year making Dart the likely starter the following year (or Kiffin goes to the portal again to grab someone else because like I said, unless Howard shows out and really separates himself from Dart, which is highly unlikely, Dart is your starter next year because you’d be stupid to start a guy with no real gane experience over a guy with 2 years starting 1 year backup experience). The point is, it’s looking like he would have been just as well off staying here (especially if he “loves LSU” as much as he says he does).

The kid may turn out to be a phenomenal QB, but he isn’t one right now and it doesn’t appear that he is making the best of decisions.

I still say TCU would have been the far superior choice with a better chance of starting in a year. It still has the appearance that TCU said they were not interested (regardless of the truth, that’s the appearance).

BK may not have wanted him to leave, but he was absolutely honest with him on where Howard stands on the chart and his likelihood of ever being the starter here and told him that he understands if he leaves. He may have asked him to stay, but I guarantee he didn’t put in that much effort to keep him.

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I still say TCU would have been the far superior choice with a better chance of starting in a year. It still has the appearance that TCU said they were not interested (regardless of the truth, that’s the appearance).

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He's going to regret not going to TCU. He has a clearer path to start and he would be reunited with HS/LSU teammate Bech. I think he would do very well in Sonny Dykes' system and now they've added Kendall Briles as OC.

I get the prestige of being at an SEC school, but TCU now opens an opportunity for him to showcase his talent and build his draft stock.

Wrong board.

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If I’m not mistaken, Sanders only has 1 year left. Sounds like they promised Walker 2nd team and Dart will be processed.

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Or the Howards were played for chumps by Kiffin.

I am telling you that is definitely not the case. Just like everyone thought, they were pretty certain he was signing. I really don’t want to say anymore than I have. There’s a reason but it’s not because they told him to kick rocks. Ole Miss could very well being a huge mistake. Not the first snd definitely not the last to leave a school to never be heard of again!

But why would you choose Ole Miss over TCU? TCU is in far more new of a QB than Ole Miss and it’s just simply a much better program with an even better educational system.

So either the hHowards are really really stupid, or TCU wouldn’t give them what they wanted for his services.

There is zero logical reason for him to go to Ole Miss. you can’t even really use the “closer to home” argument here because it’s not really that much closer and it’s not as if the family doesn’t have money to afford to travel.